Aging motorcyclists - Close Up tonight 30/11/10

**george formby** · 1st December 2010, 15:34

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

Fuck me if thats the state of driving down there no wonder there are so many deaths.
I would be taking another way home myself.
Or maybe buy a tank, lets see the fuckers cross the center line then.

Up here, off SH 1 & SH 10 we have a high percentage of middle of the road camper van tourists. Middle of the road meaning just that. Very twisty scenic roads. You really have to stack the odds in your favour when out during the peak season. Corner cutting is very average & I try to be in a position to see them coming & have a mutter in my helmet as I go by. It's just something I factor in like hitting gravel, melted tar or having a car pull out in front of me. Makes for a slow ride at times but I'm happier being able to pull up rather than have a

moment.

**Clean_up** · 1st December 2010, 15:38

I just wonder how effective the laser is when it is used through a tinted glass window, and if that is in fact not recommended by the manufacturers, and if it would hold up in court???

**Kickaha** · 1st December 2010, 19:07

Originally Posted by Katman

I was actually talking about the 75% figure for the serious/fatal accidents that was attributable to the motorcyclist.

Quiet you, we're not meant to mention that one

**BoristheBiter** · 1st December 2010, 19:11

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Quiet you, we're not meant to mention that one

i would have but he bet me to it.

**spookytooth** · 1st December 2010, 19:27

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

i would have but he bet me to it.

how much did he bet ?

**scumdog** · 1st December 2010, 19:45

Originally Posted by MSTRS

What I saw was an item about cops operating a speed trap, and it showed only those who were caught speeding. Where were the many more that were not speeding? ...

But..but...but..THAT is one of the major whinges on KB "If I'm doing nothing wrong and a cop stops me I'll tell him to get fucked"...WTF do cops think they're doing pulling over bikers that weren't speeding or anything" etc etc.

The cop only pulled over those that were speeding if I got the drift of your comment?

(Oh, and was that good enough a bite for you?? )

**scumdog** · 1st December 2010, 20:12

Just watched the video clip, judging by the excuses/comments it seemed like an average KB outing....

**oldrider** · 1st December 2010, 20:13

Have a look at this video and see if you can spot the difference between Steve (the lawnmower rider) and the bikers pulled up by the cops in the Close-up program!

http://biggeekdaddy.com/humorpages/M...serarrest.html

They all looked the same to me actually, well they behaved the same anyway!

**SPman** · 1st December 2010, 20:34

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

So slightly breaking the law is OK ? But really breaking the law is not ? What about slightly breaking other laws .. such as .. oooo . Theft ? Murder ? Sorry officer, I only slightly killed him - so don't be revenue gathering from me today ...

Some laws are basic to humanity, some are basic to the cohesiveness and efficient working of society, but many are overtly political in either passing or their pedantic enforcement!

**PhantasmNZ** · 1st December 2010, 20:45

Originally Posted by Smifffy

Lovely!

So is there a MAG view? Is there someone who may speak on behalf of the organisation, at the risk of possibly upsetting a proportion of the membership?

Or is this another typical NZ 'rule by committee & consensus" organisation that needs to thrash out every issue ad nauseum until the message is buried in PC doublespeak, and the issue has been forgotten?

MAG-NZ have officially responded to TVNZ over last night's show highlighting how in fact TVNZ, just like the government have picked the "easy target" for their less than fairly balanced piece of shoddy reporting.

We've also invited TVNZ to our oranges and coal ride this year (http://www.mag-nz.org/events/mag-nz-events) for a little bit of balance and perspective.

MAG-NZ members can read the full response on the members area of the MAG-NZ site

**Luckylegs** · 1st December 2010, 23:27

Originally Posted by PhantasmNZ

...We've also invited TVNZ to our oranges and coal ride this year

I'm not generally too concerned with being pc, but... D'ya reckon deliverin Coal is in particularly good taste given the current going ons on the west coast ?

**Bald Eagle** · 1st December 2010, 23:29

Originally Posted by Luckylegs

I'm not generally too concerned with being pc, but... D'ya reckon deliverin Coal is in particularly good taste given the current going ons on the west coast ?

To hell with being pc, we want to get a message out. If we 'offend' a few more people it will at least get the media coverage.
As they say the only thing worse than bad publicity, is no publicity.

**Brian d marge** · 2nd December 2010, 04:05

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

So slightly breaking the law is OK ? But really breaking the law is not ? What about slightly breaking other laws .. such as .. oooo . Theft ? Murder ? Sorry officer, I only slightly killed him - so don't be revenue gathering from me today ...

The speed clocked by the point you just missed was well and truly about 119

IF the popo was interested IN saving lives as they said, try an accident black spot

or a bike meeting , outside the gate , not a loooooonnnnnggg stretch of road , with sod all cars on it ,,,OFF COURSE THE SPEED WILL CREEP UP

its the 80 /20 rule , 80 percent will drive to the prevailing conditions ,,,20 wont , so measure the 80 , the ping the 20

IF the law say I should inform that the person next door is an undesirable , and he is my buddy. That one law I wont be following

Common sense,, I would presume would prevail. ( unless you believe that 104 Km/h u are more deader than 100 ??? )

Sorry nice try but ,,

revenue gathering.... until I see clear evidence ( if u said poor driving , now we could talk ,,,)

Stephen

**PrincessBandit** · 2nd December 2010, 05:28

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

IF the popo was interested IN saving lives as they said, try an accident black spot

or a bike meeting , outside the gate , not a loooooonnnnnggg stretch of road , with sod all cars on it ,,,OFF COURSE THE SPEED WILL CREEP UP

Stephen

So bad accidents and fatals never occur on looooooonnnggg stretches of road partly due to speed?
I see what you are trying to say, but given the number of roadside crosses I've seen on stretches of road or gentle bends which seem unlikely spots for such occurrences, any portion of road would be fair game.