Aging motorcyclists - Close Up tonight 30/11/10

**Swoop** · 2nd December 2010, 07:39

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

( if u said poor driving , now we could talk ,,,)

What? The police concentrating on the poor standards of driving on our roads?

That's just crazy talk.

**MSTRS:Me** · 2nd December 2010, 07:51

Originally Posted by scumdog

The cop only pulled over those that were speeding if I got the drift of your comment?

That is what was shown in the item. The impression, at least, from the clip, was that other speeding vehicles were ignored. Seems wrong to me, that only motorcyclists were the target.
After all, speed is apparently the big evil. It shouldn't matter what sort of vehicle is doing it.

**Luckylegs** · 2nd December 2010, 07:58

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

To hell with being pc, we want to get a message out. If we 'offend' a few more people it will at least get the media coverage.
As they say the only thing worse than bad publicity, is no publicity.

So, replace it with summat else and make a point of letting the media know (when they cover the event as Im sure they will) that youve done it. You might just get some positive publicity and or some respect from the public (maybe, I dunno, maybe thats naieve, but...).

...Maybe a shit in a handbag would be a more appropriate handout this year!

**superman** · 2nd December 2010, 08:08

Originally Posted by I GS 1

Interesting - I have also just been fined for doing 63 in a 50 zone (wide road, no traffic, children playing etc.) could this be something to do with meeting "quotas" in the current "campaign" and could the current anti-speed "campaign" have something to do with stopping to check motorcyclists' registrations after many indicated that they were no longer intending to keep them up to date after the increase in ACC levies. I need to be convinced that it has anything to do with speed.

Going 25% faster than the speed limit is kind of enough for them to justify it. I read somewhere that if the area you're in is quiet and safe etc you can go up to 11km/hr over the speed limit and you'll be fine. (taken from Police Website). What was your speedo saying though? It would have been approaching 70ish if you got done at 63 won't it?

**MSTRS:Me** · 2nd December 2010, 08:16

Policy is generally +10kph is let go. I say generally. Don't bet on it. Especially not when Paula Rose is having a long weekend...

**T.W.R** · 2nd December 2010, 08:18

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

The speed clocked by the point you just missed was well and truly about 119

IF the popo was interested IN saving lives as they said, try an accident black spot

or a bike meeting , outside the gate , not a loooooonnnnnggg stretch of road , with sod all cars on it ,,,OFF COURSE THE SPEED WILL CREEP UP

its the 80 /20 rule , 80 percent will drive to the prevailing conditions ,,,20 wont , so measure the 80 , the ping the 20

IF the law say I should inform that the person next door is an undesirable , and he is my buddy. That one law I wont be following

Common sense,, I would presume would prevail. ( unless you believe that 104 Km/h u are more deader than 100 ??? )

Sorry nice try but ,,

revenue gathering.... until I see clear evidence ( if u said poor driving , now we could talk ,,,)

Stephen

The area involved in the footage was North Canterbury around the Waipara area which has a pretty bad reputation for accidents as it is

As for Looong pieces of road, one of the blackest pieces of road for accidents, speeding, and other mishaps is between ChCh & Timaru....it's only got a handful of corners in nearly 160kms of open road.....Why because most can't handle a straight piece of road, chumps moan about that piece of road in particular but it's one place you have to keep your wits about you & keep on the alert

As for the general tone of the thread, as long it keeps the US & THEM attitude we're always going to be on the loosing side of the ledger

**oldrider** · 2nd December 2010, 08:19

Originally Posted by Pixie

He had a reasonable atitude because he couldn't give a fuck.
I mean - who is seriously going to try to collect the fine at the club house?

True! Totally agree!

There is a lot of reference about "common sense" on KB but there as many versions of that as there are members!

**Spearfish** · 2nd December 2010, 08:30

Originally Posted by T.W.R

The area involved in the footage was North Canterbury around the Waipara area which has a pretty bad reputation for accidents as it is

As for Looong pieces of road, one of the blackest pieces of road for accidents, speeding, and other mishaps is between ChCh & Timaru....it's only got a handful of corners in nearly 160kms of open road.....Why because most can't handle a straight piece of road, chumps moan about that piece of road in particular but it's one place you have to keep your wits about you & keep on the alert

As for the general tone of the thread, as long it keeps the US & THEM attitude we're always going to be on the loosing side of the ledger

Agree, as well as the "us and them" is the perpetual victim of circumstance.

**MSTRS:Me** · 2nd December 2010, 08:33

Originally Posted by T.W.R

As for Looong pieces of road, one of the blackest pieces of road for accidents, speeding, and other mishaps is between ChCh & Timaru....it's only got a handful of corners in nearly 160kms of open road.....Why because most can't handle a straight piece of road, chumps moan about that piece of road in particular but it's one place you have to keep your wits about you & keep on the alert

I am not alone in thinking that this sort of road is 'dangerous' simply because it's boring at 100kph. Boredom = inattention =

**yachtie10** · 2nd December 2010, 08:43

Originally Posted by MSTRS

I am not alone in thinking that this sort of road is 'dangerous' simply because it's boring at 100kph. Boredom = inattention =

Eggzackery

**T.W.R** · 2nd December 2010, 08:55

Originally Posted by MSTRS

I am not alone in thinking that this sort of road is 'dangerous' simply because it's boring at 100kph. Boredom = inattention =

Boredom is a sign of lacking by the person behind the bars/wheel

There isn't one piece of road in NZ that is that long that inattention should set in

even in the likes aussie with what are some ultra long dead straight pieces of road they don't have the same amount of accidents that occur here on our humble wee pieces of tarseal

**yachtie10** · 2nd December 2010, 08:59

Originally Posted by T.W.R

Boredom is a sign of lacking by the person behind the bars/wheel

There isn't one piece of road in NZ that is that long that inattention should set in

even in the likes aussie with what are some ultra long dead straight pieces of road they don't have the same amount of accidents that occur here on our humble wee pieces of tarseal

There are many intelligent people who would disagree
Personally I think inattention is common and the main cause of accidents in general
I find inattention happen more often in the car but can creep in on the bike on boring roads

**Katman** · 2nd December 2010, 09:02

Originally Posted by yachtie10

Personally I think inattention is common and the main cause of accidents in general
I find inattention happen more often in the car but can creep in on the bike on boring roads

That's hardly the fault of our roads or of our laws governing our roads.

It is solely the fault of the inattentive person.

**yachtie10** · 2nd December 2010, 09:16

Originally Posted by Katman

That's hardly the fault of our roads or of our laws governing our roads.

It is solely the fault of the inattentive person.

Didnt say it was anyones fault
but ignoring it and saying its purely the drivers fault is ignorant and doesnt help anyone.

"When the human mind is not being occupied by the current task, then it will automatically find something else to occupy it."