Aging motorcyclists - Close Up tonight 30/11/10

[Ocean1]

Inattention isn't an excuse it's an admission of incompetence on a par with SMIDSY.

Incompetence is relative. Nobody is absolutely competent to manage a vehicle and be perfectly safe. You know full well cognitive functions are hugely complicated, very few people ever improve their performance beyond the natural "tune" because most of 'em don't know how. Until you teach people how to learn you have no reason to decry their ignorance.

In fact, if you're worried about the road toll then the single most effective response would be just that: unteach them how to look and learn them how to see. Motor skills mean little if you can't see into the future just a tad.

I'm not aware of any service available to anyone off the street that might make much difference to the national tendency to ADHD. You?

[scumdog]

Driver inattention is one of the biggest single causes of crashes and In New Zealand, Police ascribed 'poor observation' as a cause of nearly half the crashes in 2008. Shame that this is largely ignored in favour of an all-out attack on speeding.

Yeah, I'm always ignoring the 'inattentionadar' as I drive down the road, the radar is more fun to use...

[Brian d marge]

Mentioned it before , 80 /20 rule , MOST people will settle at a speed which is about right for the conditions , 20 % will fall outside of that , ( think this was done in Canada , not sure though )

if most of the traffic is around 110 then the law doesn't need to be enforced , the 20 % on the other hand are Rodney's with out functioning speedos .....

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

I think you would be the only one as most on here see nothing wrong with speeding.

Correct use of speed Yes . incorrect use of speed no...... and remember folks Speed kills ,,,government said so , must be true

Stephen

[James Deuce]

I'm not aware of any service available to anyone off the street that might make much difference to the national tendency to ADHD. You?

I hear what you are saying.

it's why NZ drivers consistently rate themselves as above average drivers.

The first step is self awareness and despite most Kiwis seemingly laid back attitude most of them have egos that preclude self-critique and improvement.

[Edbear]

I hear what you are saying.

it's why NZ drivers consistently rate themselves as above average drivers.

The first step is self awareness and despite most Kiwis seemingly laid back attitude most of them have egos that preclude self-critique and improvement.

Show me an incompetent driver/rider who knows he/she is incompetent and I'll show you a passenger. People simply don't know they can't drive!

[PrincessBandit]

It comes down to ensuring that your eyes are always moving.

Even though the picture they are seeing may not change, as long as they are moving, the mind is working.

I remember being told years and years ago that one way to help combat droopy eyelids (or boredom -/- inattention) is to chew. Again, the idea seems to be that some sort of facial movement seems to counteract the "nodding off".

Works for me, I have to say, although the gum has to be fresh!! ("does your chewing gum lose it's flavour on the bedpost overnight...." - anyone remember that old song??)

[varminter]

Works for me, I have to say, although the gum has to be fresh!! ("does your chewing gum lose it's flavour on the bedpost overnight...." - anyone remember that old song??)[/QUOTE]

Lonnie Donnegan, ooops, what a givaway

[James Deuce]

Show me an incompetent driver/rider who knows he/she is incompetent and I'll show you a passenger. People simply don't know they can't drive!

Hello! I love the train. The bus not so much. It's either slightly early or massively late.

[Edbear]

Hello! I love the train. The bus not so much. It's either slightly early or massively late.

I can't bling you again so soon!

[SPman]

When I lived in ChCh it was a commonm weekend thing to try to get to Timaru in 1 hour ... if that's still the case, then that's one reason why the road is dangerous ...

(It might not be so hard now .. but back in the days, try doing it on a Triumph 650 ...

Yeah, but at least you were concentrating on the job at hand! The old man used to do Wellington to New Plymouth in 4 hrs flat on a 500 Ariel before the war - less traffic but worse roads, including the old Ngaraunga gorge.
Lack of concentration is not usually an issue, in those circumstances!

[slofox]

Well, hell. Let's face it. All these "aging" riders who ride like loonies are gunna cost the country a fortune to keep alive once they get past riding or anything else. So we ought to be encouraging them to really get into it and kill themselves off as soon as possible. That way everybody left is financially better off...yes?

[phiretrojan]

Just watched it, I'm with the police here, you speed you get caught, why bullshit your way out, its not going to work, you can request a copy of the laser gun image cause it saves a copy, enough said, use the racetrack.....


btw if anyone havn't seen this here you go .... new give way rule, motorcyclist rules.... thinking it was going to be in deep about it, its not really

http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfast-news/new...-video-3809457

[MSTRS:Me]

Alan Kirk is a complete prat. He says "Some of the Harley range will be able to be ridden" WTF? Does Harley make a bike, available here, of 660cc or less? I don't think so.

[scumdog]

Alan Kirk is a complete prat. He says "Some of the Harley range will be able to be ridden" WTF? Does Harley make a bike, available here, of 660cc or less? I don't think so.

Can't be naffed checking - but is it not a HP to weight ratio that decides if a bike is suitable?

Maybe a 883 Sporty fits in the range of suitable bikes??

Or have I got it wrong again???