maybe you should read twice.Originally Posted by MSTRS
where does it say that CBR's wil NOT be allowed?
Scooter boy
maybe you should read twice.
where does it say that CBR's wil NOT be allowed?
Forum whore
Those are drawbacks in a learner bike for most newbies and the proposed change should do away with the rusty GN scenario.
Low seat height, excellent throttle response, stabilty and measured steering response are of much more use to a learner than race rep sharp steering and brakes and any useful power and torque crammed into a relatively small RPM range. The typical race rep riding position isn't conducive to learning basic bike handling skills either.
I'm not saying it's wrong for you, I'm saying that most people would be happier with a bike that has no surprises and is comfortable from stationary to max speed. Most. My first road going 2 stroke experiences were an S2 with clip ons around the bottom triple clamp and I loved it.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Forum whore
Good. Most of the ones available in the NZ market are ancient, thrashed, and beaten.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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I May be wrong, but CBR's are not listed in the approved list.
But it does say this...
All motorcycles with an engine capacity under 260ml are approved with the exception of:
Suzuki - RGV250
Kawasaki - KR250 (KR-1 and KR1s models)
Honda - NSR250
Yamaha - TZR250
Aprila - RS250
So the question is "Is the CBR under 260ml?"
If it is then it is allowed.
But I could be wrong.
White Trash Pearls of Wisdom #2654 - Refering to yourself in the 3rd person: The only thing gayer, would be being caught handcuffed around a public toilet bowl, an apple stuffed in your mouth and George Michael administering an epic caneing to your exposed cheeks while Boy George documents the event on a handicam.
Hardcore Biker
In a position that StoneY holds as National Spokesperson, he is bound to be in the firing line of any who do not agree with his approach to addressing issues as a public voice. Any person in this same position would be in the same situation. It's a matter of not being able to please everyone - that most impossible mission in life.
Would we prefer someone that pussy foots around topics, watching what they say in case it offends? Or someone that will follow through with what he believes in so passionately. Between us all, there will a mixture of answers as we all feel things should be handled differently. And this is sweet as - this is what gives things a bit of spice and gets people reacting to issues that arise.
I for one know StoneY couldn't be more passionate, and believe in what he is doing more than anyone! A little rough around the edges is what you get (we love ya for that StoneY), and in a position like that I believe it might just be needed at times. Of course, this is just one persons opinion, and we all have them.
He has a voice that often gets heard, and it's a job that not many are willing to step up to.
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The instructions are simple...
Forgive me if I assumed your 'not-not' wasn't meant as a double negative. I read it as 'not - repeat - not...' The nuances of English, especially the written form, are so often lacking in those that post rants such as yours.
There is a list in OZ, and the same thing will happen here eventually. The list is intended to remove all doubt over which bikes larger than 250 (260) cc are allowed for learner use. Otherwise, it is only the GP-style 2 strokes of 250cc that are NOT allowed.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Hardcore Biker
I think its a fair system, I too had to get my licence like anyone else.
I would have like to have had an RS,TZR,NSR or RGV as my learner bike, however one must use their common sense.
I was 25 when I got my learners, I rode my FZR250 for 2 years (this is longer than is required for someone my age but there is no rush).
I've had a few sketchy moments whilst becoming accustomed to a road bike.
As well as a couple of low speed offs in the wet.
Now if I had forked out all this money for an expensive 2 stroke bike I would have lost it when damaging my bike.
As for the few sketchy moments I wonder how they would have panned out had I been on a quicker more unpredictable bike.
I'm riding a TL1000R now and still learning at 28 years of age, I've ridden all but the kwaka 2 stroke and consider none of them as learners bikes.
IMHO 250 2 strokes are not suitable for learners or anyone under 20 years of age.
Why, because at that age you have not had enough experience on road to judge traffic, identify hazards and prepare for the un-expected.
I wonder how many other biker would have a similar opinion.
and another thing
"the tribulations experienced by a young person going about getting their licenses."
What are you talking about, they don't give you a different test because your younger.
If you can't pass a licence test its because your current skill level does not match the criteria to progress through to the next licence.
Hardcore Biker
Do you have a carrot stuck in your rectum ?. A good doctor and or Honda rider should be able to help you out.
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Agreed. I appreciate 5t3a1F's point but Stony's posts here are personal and he's entitled to speak from the heart. It is not easy being a volunteer spokesman and explaining something you have a passion for.
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
he needs our support.....
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
mad thou rider
so you ae annoyed because he might say 'fuck shit slut cunt' from time to time?
its a forum, dont stress it.
its like this, at work, I have to be professional, I use words at home, and when out with friends that i would never use at work. swearing and having a laugh on an internet forum does not mean that he is incapable of acting in a suitable professional manner when speaking on behalf of bikers in his capacity of a motorcyclist representative.
if you think you have what it takes to get up, and do a better job, and put more time, and more effort in, and get better results than stoney (or any other biker rep for that matter) then, please, put your hand up, and take the job. if not, fuck up.
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
Bitch, ho, mother fucker, ball sacks, Kerry Dukie.....
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
#3
Ah thats just silly Hels.
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Hardcore Biker
Are you upset because your bikes second hand value just dropped through the floor? Its the best move to get young people on bikes in a long time (proper bikes not ragged out 15 year old race replicas that make anyone over six foot tall look like Krusty the Clown on his minibike).
I love the smell of twin V16's in the morning..
minion
Back the truck up a momenthe's a GINGA
Depends on the "who with and where" the conversation is taking place I guess, a place for both diplomacy and tack and at times a right royal rark up.
You forgot to add Bother, Blast and Heck.
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