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    Motorcyclists less at risk in pursuits - police.

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    Motorcyclists appear to be at less risk of crashing than other vehicles during a police pursuit, despite a perception to the contrary, police say.

    A report released today cleared police of any blame over two separate pursuits involving three deaths, including a motorcyclist and his passenger, earlier this year.

    But the Independent Police Conduct Authority (IPCA) reiterated a recommendation made last year that police track motorcycles separately, to ascertain whether they were at greater risk during pursuits.

    Steven John Gorrie and his pillion passenger Makoto Izumi died after the 1200cc motorcycle they were travelling on hit an oncoming car on April 4 in Dome Valley, near Warkworth, north of Auckland.

    Acting road policing manager Rob Morgan told NZPA that police started tracking all vehicle types involved in pursuits after the IPCA's recommendation last year, discovering that motorcyclists were at less risk of crashing during a pursuit than other vehicles.

    "That came out as a result of probably a perception that chasing motorbikes is more risky than chasing other vehicles, but that's not actually really showing up in the statistics."

    He said 9.7 per cent of motorcycles crashed during a pursuit, compared to 15.8 per cent of all pursuits.

    "We're basically saying that it doesn't indicate a different way to treat motorcycles."

    Already, police did not use spikes in motorcycle pursuits, as they did for cars, for the safety of riders. "That would really raise their risk of falling off."

    The new tracking system meant police could be alert to any trends that showed up relating to pursuits.

    The IPCA found last year that motorcyclists were involved in a disproportionate number of road crashes, but did not have enough information to determine whether it was more dangerous to pursue a motorcycle than another vehicle.

    Authority chairwoman Justice Lowell Goddard said today that in the two 2010 cases it reviewed, all decisions, acts and conduct of the police officers were lawful, reasonable and justified.

    Ricky Allan Forbes died after a Subaru Impreza driven by his cousin crashed into a tree near Murchison, south of Nelson in February. They were being pursued for dangerous driving and failing to stop.

    Mr Forbes' cousin, Danny Forbes, later pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to four years imprisonment.

    The authority again found the police officer was justified in starting the pursuit, and complied with policy throughout.

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    Thats the answer right there, ride like your being chased = crash less.
    Justify those speed limits now, fuckers!
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    If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say they are getting the public "warmed up" to them chasing us more, and harder.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiss View Post
    If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say they are getting the public "warmed up" to them chasing us more, and harder.....
    "Us"? You're implying "we" run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    "Us"? You're implying "we" run.
    Yes.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiss View Post
    If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say they are getting the public "warmed up" to them chasing us more, and harder.....
    And when "we" crash it will be ok cos "we" do it less than cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiss View Post
    If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say they are getting the public "warmed up" to them chasing us more, and harder.....
    They can chase all they like, but a piece of shit Holden isn't going to catch a GSXR1000 any time soon

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    I have a friend who built a reputation on being the King of the Runners (among other skills)

    I've personally watched infrared footage taken from a police helicopter that goes for about 30 minutes of when he thought he'd chalked up another win.

    Eventually, you'll get caught.
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    The interesting thing about the Dome Valley crash is, it happened on probably the only place you could pass with relative saftey (in a car) apart from the two passing lanes that is. I have no knowledge of how that particular 'crash causing death' happened but suffice to say, a visual era must have been made by either the bike rider or the car driver. It happened at night.

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    If you want to outrun a cop while driving mums Civic you'd have to do some crazy shit to get away from a determined cop, while on a quick bike you could just be cruising and still get away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    I have a friend who built a reputation on being the King of the Runners (among other skills)

    I've personally watched infrared footage taken from a police helicopter that goes for about 30 minutes of when he thought he'd chalked up another win.

    Eventually, you'll get caught.
    Maybe in big flash Auckland, but down here in the boonies, we ain't go no flash heli choper type things

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    Riding along north of Timaru years ago at christmas a cop chased me and another guy for 22 miles, evidently, we didn't even know he was there. We did a runner without even knowing it and I wonder how often that happens.

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    Maybe, just maybe

    motorcycle riders generally have more skill than boy racers?

    Nah, that's heresy. Ignore my post, silly idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    If you want to outrun a cop while driving mums Civic you'd have to do some crazy shit to get away from a determined cop, while on a quick bike you could just be cruising and still get away.
    When I was in UK I watched a program on police chases, and I noticed the cops going into corners wide and cutting in while the plebs did the normal run wide on exit - oops a lamp post thing. Wonder how much training cops get on driving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrub View Post
    motorcycle riders generally have more skill than boy racers?

    Nah, that's heresy. Ignore my post, silly idea.
    More likely they just like to think they have
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