Aging motorcyclists - Close Up tonight 30/11/10

**sinned** · 30th November 2010, 16:15

TV1 Close Up are advertising a programme comparing problems of aging motorcyclists with Boy Racers. I will be watching with interest

**george formby** · 30th November 2010, 16:20

Originally Posted by sinned

TV1 Close Up are advertising a programme comparing problems of aging motorcyclists with Boy Racers. I will be watching with interest

I wonder what they will be trying to prove to middle New Zealand, not that I think Close Up is biased, blinkered & solely focused on viewer numbers.

**ducatilover** · 30th November 2010, 16:21

Excellent, more anti-happy people propagandist twaddle.....

**george formby** · 30th November 2010, 16:26

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Excellent, more anti-happy people propagandist twaddle.....

Propagandist twaddle, like rolling a stickless chuppa chup round your mouth, me likey. I will use that in a sentence with a customer within the hour. Just for a larf.

**ducatilover** · 30th November 2010, 16:30

Originally Posted by george formby

Propagandist twaddle, like rolling a stickless chuppa chup round your mouth, me likey. I will use that in a sentence with a customer within the hour. Just for a larf.

Good shit!

**cheshirecat** · 30th November 2010, 16:33

Just sent them this

I will be watching this with interest, along with about 90,000 other motorcyclists. I'm an 'aging returning biker', well over 50.

From experience I believe this 'headline' has been over stated. The accident ratio is less than other demographic age groups and less in terms of engine capacity.
A key accident cause is oncomming vehicles in the middle of the road. This often can be interpreted as 'rider loosing control' when in fact the accident is caused by the rider correcting for the head on collision causing the bike to run off the road and the oncoming vehicle continuing non the wiser.

In addition ACC accident stats are notoriously badly derived and don't pass rigourous statisical scrutinity so it would be unwise for these to be quoted in a serious debate.

A poll a few months ago on a popular national bike forum concerning accidents among mature riders (over 40) reported remarkably few accidents over 20 years with the overwelming majority minor (falling over when stationary being the most common).
Ths adds up because our insurance premiums (and they should know) are relatively low. the average being $500 fully comprehensive. If the stats were that bad we'd be talking thousands to insure.

Yours

**george formby** · 30th November 2010, 16:40

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Good shit!

That was easy

Customer " Do you do de-caf?"
Moi (small shriek of excitement) "yes, but why?"
Cust "Caffeine is really bad for you"
Moi (squirming in delight) "thats just propagandist twaddle put about by scientist's in the pay of big Tea"
Cust " do you have soy as well?"

Cheers ducati lover, I've had a dull day.

**dipshit** · 30th November 2010, 16:42

Originally Posted by cheshirecat

Just sent them this

I will be watching this with interest, along with about 90,000 other motorcyclists. I'm an 'aging returning biker', well over 50.

From experience I believe this 'headline' has been over stated. The accident ratio is less than other demographic age groups and less in terms of engine capacity.
A key accident cause is oncomming vehicles in the middle of the road. This often can be interpreted as 'rider loosing control' when in fact the accident is caused by the rider correcting for the head on collision causing the bike to run off the road and the oncoming vehicle continuing non the wiser.

In addition ACC accident stats are notoriously badly derived and don't pass rigourous statisical scrutinity so it would be unwise for these to be quoted in a serious debate.

A poll a few months ago on a popular national bike forum concerning accidents among mature riders (over 40) reported remarkably few accidents over 20 years with the overwelming majority minor (falling over when stationary being the most common).
Ths adds up because our insurance premiums (and they should know) are relatively low. the average being $500 fully comprehensive. If the stats were that bad we'd be talking thousands to insure.

Yours

Gee you talk some shit.

**Motu** · 30th November 2010, 16:46

Will the presenter have his Norton there?

**The Pastor** · 30th November 2010, 16:48

I like motorbikes

**NONONO** · 30th November 2010, 16:50

Originally Posted by cheshirecat

Just sent them this

I will be watching this with interest, along with about 90,000 other motorcyclists. I'm an 'aging returning biker', well over 50.

From experience I believe this 'headline' has been over stated. The accident ratio is less than other demographic age groups and less in terms of engine capacity.
A key accident cause is oncomming vehicles in the middle of the road. This often can be interpreted as 'rider loosing control' when in fact the accident is caused by the rider correcting for the head on collision causing the bike to run off the road and the oncoming vehicle continuing non the wiser.

In addition ACC accident stats are notoriously badly derived and don't pass rigourous statisical scrutinity so it would be unwise for these to be quoted in a serious debate.

A poll a few months ago on a popular national bike forum concerning accidents among mature riders (over 40) reported remarkably few accidents over 20 years with the overwelming majority minor (falling over when stationary being the most common).
Ths adds up because our insurance premiums (and they should know) are relatively low. the average being $500 fully comprehensive. If the stats were that bad we'd be talking thousands to insure.

Yours

Bloody marvelous post and well said that man.
Almost became a RAF (Rider At Fault) or RLC (Rider Looses Control) stat at the weekend.
On a long straight road into Cambridge, doing less than the speed limit, perfect visibility when I spotted a large black station wagon coming towards me in the distance. As the car closed the driver turned towards me, crossing the center line with both right and left wheels.
Because I'm paranoid anyway I had been watching the SOB all the way and managed to flick hard left and then hard right, barely avoiding first the car then the ditch.
The driver was staring at me the whole time and there where no turn offs that would have made crossing the center line even remotely rational.
Scared the shit outa me.
Once again, great post mate.....and well done for letting Close Up know in advance that we refute the sensationalist bollix...

**Virago** · 30th November 2010, 16:50

Originally Posted by george formby

That was easy

Customer " Do you do de-caf?"
Moi (small shriek of excitement) "yes, but why?"
Cust "Caffeine is really bad for you"
Moi (squirming in delight) "thats just propagandist twaddle put about by scientist's in the pay of big Tea"
Cust " do you have soy as well?"

...

You're not by any chance an aging motorcyclist, are you...?