Hayabusa

[jrandom]

Hayabusas are choice, just tell the old fulla to get one and be done with it.

[Mully]

Don't laugh but a good condition RF900R will give you 9/10s of the Hayabusa experience without the ability to kill yourself quite so quickly. Similar handling, power delivery is similar but not the same top speeds (only 260km/hr instead of 300km/hr) and it's a lot easier to trade up once he's got used to the power again.

*ahem*

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=342582724

[jrandom]

*ahem*

Dude, you just swapped your RF for a naked bike with an aircooled engine that is much faster than the RF, but still only makes almost exactly half the power of a Hayabusa.

You of all people should not be supporting that frankly ridiculous statement about RFs. They're wheezy twenty-year-old teapots. Jesus.

[White trash]

Dude, you just swapped your RF for a naked bike with an aircooled engine that is much faster than the RF, but still only makes almost exactly half the power of a Hayabusa.

You of all people should not be supporting that frankly ridiculous statement about RFs. They're wheezy twenty-year-old teapots. Jesus.

On what planet is the undoubtedly amazing GSX1400 faster than an RF900?

[Voltaire]

How those old timers got those piles of shit around the way they did beats me.

I used to ride those 'piles of shit' still do most weekends........
Roads were a lot less busy then...and cars slower.
...twin shocks...19/100 tyres....drum brakes..carbs..points..heavy controls.....
I do have a modern ish bike a 900ssie...its a lot easier to ride and way more comfortable...

[jrandom]

On what planet is the undoubtedly amazing GSX1400 faster than an RF900?

What sir wants to be doing before he goes any further with that train of thought is putting both of them on the same dyno.

The RF has a slightly higher eventual top speed due to being fully faired, of course, even in spite of its comparatively geriatric and asthmatic nature (which you can hardly blame it for, given the age difference) but that's not what I call 'faster'.

Good bike in its day. Not anything you'd want to compare to a Hayabusa with a straight face, though.

[Madness]

What sir wants to be doing before he goes any further with that train of thought is putting both of them on the same dyno.

The RF has a slightly higher eventual top speed due to being fully faired, of course, even in spite of its comparatively geriatric and asthmatic nature (which you can hardly blame it for, given the age difference) but that's not what I call 'faster'.

Good bike in its day. Not anything you'd want to compare to a Hayabusa with a straight face, though.

Nice to see you darkening the corridoors of KB once again, Mr Random.

[Mully]

Dude, you just swapped your RF for a naked bike with an aircooled engine that is much faster than the RF, but still only makes almost exactly half the power of a Hayabusa.

You of all people should not be supporting that frankly ridiculous statement about RFs. They're wheezy twenty-year-old teapots. Jesus.

I support the RF being a good "returning to riding" bike, which is what OP's father is looking for, isn't it? Their relatively "wheezy" nature making it easier (note; "easier" not "easy") to avoid becoming deaded in the first five minutes.

And yet with minor tweaks (suspension, mainly) and the right rider (i.e. not a pig-tailed girl like myself) they are a very quick bike.

It's all about horses for courses, dude.

OP's dad could spend ~$4K on an RF, scare the living shit out of himself and decide to give it up and recover ~$4K on an RF

[jrandom]

OP's dad could spend ~$4K on an RF

He'd be silly to.

recover ~$4K on an RF

He'd be lucky to.

[sinned]

LOLzah. All this talk about "the old man", and I was thinking about this old dude wobblingly getting used to riding a modern speed demon. Then I realised I'm actually older'n him.

I also have that problem and with each year it gets worse.

[Mully]

He'd be silly to.



He'd be lucky to.

Yep - that's precisely the point my post was making.

[Nzpure]

Wait a sec.... the 95 gpz1100 (detuned ZZR1100 motor? 129hp) with a d2 turbo on it? Were the D2's ever made with turbos? They were introduced in 38 and my memory doesn't serve any reference to a turbo d2 model, either way, any turbocharger off a large diesel wouldn't work. Many would be water cooled, one problem, the A/R would be bloody massive when you would struggle to spool up a small turbo (td04/ IHI rhb51)

Anyway, stupidity aside. The Busa will be spastic after nigh on anything.

I call the BS card anyway

The d2s water cooling is irrelevent as you can and he did use water/methanol injection For cooling (not that great on alloy but hey) As you may not know diesels use comparatively small turbo's due to the slow revving slow velocity exhuast gas release, Also the turbo didn't even start to kick in till around 6k rpm so no it wasn't the greatest choice is turbo size and most of the boost would be generated beyond his rev range but i assure you the relativly small amount of boost it created was compensated in the fact the volume of air moved by the turbo is massive for a bike.

Besides the fact that your clearly one of ""those"" people who say ""can't"" before actually looking into something then making a educated comment. I couldn't care less for your comments. I have met many people like you (your probably a mechanic) and proved them wrong. I have a turbo 97 Holden VS V6 commodore running a gt35r @ 12 psi running super6 injectors, 500hp fuel pump and standard ECU (tuned) and been going for maybe 2 years now still all good and i was told i couldn't do that either.

[vifferman]

I also have that problem and with each year it gets worse.

I guess you (like me) still feel 20-summat inside your head, and think "WTF?!?!" when you see pix of yourself at age presentlyish. (Although I do look youngerer than I yam, despite being hirsutically challenged (on my bonce, at least) and being told repeatedly by my MutantTroglodyteSpawn that I am old).

[ducatilover]

The d2s water cooling is irrelevent as you can and he did use water/methanol injection For cooling (not that great on alloy but hey) As you may not know diesels use comparatively small turbo's due to the slow revving slow velocity exhuast gas release, Also the turbo didn't even start to kick in till around 6k rpm so no it wasn't the greatest choice is turbo size and most of the boost would be generated beyond his rev range but i assure you the relativly small amount of boost it created was compensated in the fact the volume of air moved by the turbo is massive for a bike.

Besides the fact that your clearly one of ""those"" people who say ""can't"" before actually looking into something then making a educated comment. I couldn't care less for your comments. I have met many people like you (your probably a mechanic) and proved them wrong. I have a turbo 97 Holden VS V6 commodore running a gt35r @ 12 psi running super6 injectors, 500hp fuel pump and standard ECU (tuned) and been going for maybe 2 years now still all good and i was told i couldn't do that either.

Interesting.
By water cooling I meant the exhaust side of the housing was probably water cooled.

Diesels run a smaller turbo in comparison to a same sized petrol motor purely for the relative lack of CFM they flow. A turbo used on a D2 would no doubt have over a 1.00 A/R as it's still a fairly large motor. I'm not saying it can't be done, I just don't see the point in using a large A/R turbo when one would want relative flexibility. I learned this on a 250 with a ct12a on it, 9krpm and just nudging boost. then, pop. Was fun.
Who would suggest that a VS couldn't be turbocharged? The Ecotec loves boost, everybody knows that. The only problem would be squeezing a turbo in the engine bay and a gt35r isn't exactly big. Are the injectors 36Lb items? I imagine they will happily flow enough, btw, how much power is it making on 12psi?

[*caution*]

So did he buy one?

I bought a 2008 one recently and it was my 2nd bike, I only had 2 years experience ridding an SV650 before I bought it.

With good self control I've never come any closer to killing myself than I did on my 650. Same as someone said early, the thought of walking home with no license does a good job of keeping my speeds down. Most bike will have you walking home or dead anyway if you ride with the wrong attitude, so why not get a Busa.

Its absolutely awesome, I would recommend it to anyone, drinks a lot of gas, I don't care about that though, but I'm 6'4" and find it a little uncomfortable after about an hours riding, have added some bar risers which helped, but the main problem is the knee room. I wanted a sporty bike, I looked at Litre bikes but they were too uncomfortable, so I went for the Hayabusa, still sporty, bit more comfortable plus a lot more Newtons.