New rules from Aunty Helen coming

[Bonez]

Poor kiddies. Aunty Helen is doing the right thing if you read how many here tend to fall of the road. It's for your own good I'm with JackRat on this one. A point most seem to miss is it's for ALL road users not just motocycle riders. I've been passed by cage drivers on roadworks who should have known better, stones flying all over the place-take im away officer. Personnally it doesn't bother me at all. Maybe more race venues will spring up because of it. Helen has more balls than any other "leader" in Govt at the mo. No, really it's a consperacy by Harley Davidson-Pssss but don't tell anyone I mentioned that

[spudchucka]

By the year 2050 you won't even be able to do the speed limit posted.

By then only the extremely wealthy will be able to afford to purchase fuel.

[Pixie]

a lot of you guys slag off helen , do you really think don brash would look after bikers , i reckon he would want even more cash out of ya
I'm voting labour , its the lesser of many evils

It's 'cos the Hagg's a slag

[Jackrat]

a lot of you guys slag off helen , do you really think don brash would look after bikers , i reckon he would want even more cash out of ya
I'm voting labour , its the lesser of many evils

My point exactly.
Politics is definatly not my thing, but brash or Peters are really scary,an the Greens are so far off the planet they'd have us all eating our wheaties with politicly correct wooden spoons while bending over to take it from the great gods Green Peace an F&B,while paying roylatys to the lastest sudo Maori tribe.
The CH party would drag us back into the dark ages over night.
As for the road rules,all these things are a direct result of the attitudes that are reflected on this site and others on a dayly basis.
We all know that the testing of GPS monitoring is going on in places like France,the UK ect right now.
The day WILL come when all vehicules will carry GPS, an The powers that be will simply shut you down with the push of a button.
Any runner we do then will invole sandshoes.
Anybody that doubts this should consider how many people had internet access only twenty years ago.
I don't agree with any of this shit but you better belive it's coming.
This week the laws were changed so that the police don't need a warrent to search and detain for certain drugs.On the face of it,maybe a good thing,but who wants to bet against it being abused??
Not me!!!

[WINJA]

My point exactly.
Politics is definatly not my thing, but brash or Peters are really scary,an the Greens are so far off the planet they'd have us all eating our wheaties with politicly correct wooden spoons while bending over to take it from the great gods Green Peace an F&B,while paying roylatys to the lastest sudo Maori tribe.
The CH party would drag us back into the dark ages over night.
As for the road rules,all these things are a direct result of the attitudes that are reflected on this site and others on a dayly basis.
We all know that the testing of GPS monitoring is going on in places like France,the UK ect right now.
The day WILL come when all vehicules will carry GPS, an The powers that be will simply shut you down with the push of a button.
Any runner we do then will invole sandshoes.
Anybody that doubts this should consider how many people had internet access only twenty years ago.
I don't agree with any of this shit but you better belive it's coming.
This week the laws were changed so that the police don't need a warrent to search and detain for certain drugs.On the face of it,maybe a good thing,but who wants to bet against it being abused??
Not me!!!

I THINK EVEN THE GREENS HAVE SOMETHING VERY GOOD TO OFFER THEY SHOULD HAVE PUSHED THE ANTI GM THING HARDER , IM VERY OPPOSED TO GM FOODS WHY MODIFY A POTATO WHEN THEY COST $4 FOR 10KG AT MY LOCAL , ITS CORPORATE GREED AND FUCKING WITH NATURE/GODS CREATION FOR NO GOOD REASON , IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT I SAY . GM RESEARCH FOR MEDICAL REASONS WELL THATS DIFFERENT.
I REALLY APPRECIATED IT WHEN THOSE WILD GREEN TORE UP THAT GM POTATO CROP I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THEM BUT THEY DONT LIKE CARS AND MOTORBIKES

[Skyryder]

WOW YOUR A DICK

At least I've got one............. and balls with it. You brag a lot WINJ about doing a runner so where's your balls??

Skyryder

[nsrpaul]

At least I've got one............. and balls with it. You brag a lot WINJ about doing a runner so where's your balls??

Skyryder

quite likely he is compensating

[Lou Girardin]

I love some peoples reliance on officialdom using commonsense when applying these new laws and rules. It doesn't happen.
Did the Police use commonsense when they charged Astrid Anderson over the bike race fatality in ChCh?
Did they use commonsense when they charged the race officials at the Queenstown car race?
How many drivers that hadn't had tickets or accidents in years suddenly find they're accumulating demerits for piss-ant speeding offences. A friend staying with us at the moment has had two in 4 months on her weekly commute from Kaitaia. She'd never had a ticket in her life.
This Govt has been taking our basic rights little by little for 6 years now and justifying it with lies. When are you going to wake up and say enough?
When they ban bikes? When they enforce GPS monitoring?

[scumdog]

Unless of course you're using one of the new asthma inhalers that cause people to blow positive after a puff!
Or you've had a sip of cough syrup with alcohol in it.
Still want zero tolerance?

Yep, 'cos NOBODY ever got convicted for EBA after one of the above incidents, they only affect the 'sniffer'.

[Lou Girardin]

Yep, 'cos NOBODY ever got convicted for EBA after one of the above incidents, they only affect the 'sniffer'.

So, with zero tolerance in place, you're nervously waiting for the evidential test. Have another quick suck on the inhaler 'cause you're a bit wheezy, and bingo! you blow 2 mgm's, guilty, executed on the spot. Thank you and goodbye.

[Wolf]

Yep, 'cos NOBODY ever got convicted for EBA after one of the above incidents, they only affect the 'sniffer'.

That is quite a valid point. Sure, asthma inhalers, cough medicine or an overdose of perfume can trip the sniffer, but they then take you for an evidential test - one that checks the level of alcohol in your breath or blood - if you reckon that the asthma inhaler did you in, that would be backed up by the blood test. Inhalers don't pump your blood full of alcohol, if you get excess blood alcohol from cough syrup you'd have to be drinking it for recreational purposes and although the amount of perfume some women wear feels like it's getting you pissed, it's not - 'tis lack of breathable oxygen making your head spin, not an increase in blood alcohol level.

I'm pro "zero tolerance" for drink driving - mind you I am rather biased having experienced the problems incurred when a drink driver took out our family's only source of income - smashed into mum's cab, smashed her knee and made her unable to drive professionally ever again... she lost three passenger driving jobs that day.

Alcohol tolerance varies wildly day to day even within the "legal limit" and I'm not averse to taking myself off the driving roster if I feel tiddlier than usual on a "safe" level of alcohol. I might pass a breath screening test or an EBA, but what good is that if I actually am unsafe to drive?

[Lou Girardin]

So, wolf, you'd be happy to buy a personal breath tester to check yourself after a big night so that you don't blow 1 or 2 mgm's. It might take 12 or even 24 hours to get that last trace of alcohol out of your system.
Some people might still show a reading 2 or 3 days later.
And, of course, unemployment would rise as the hospitality industry shrinks and all those actors in waiting (waiters) go on the dole.
Taxes would have to rise to compensate for the loss of revenue from alcohol sales.
Death rates from stress would rise because we can't have a relaxing ale after work.
It sounds all good to me.

[Wolf]

So, wolf, you'd be happy to buy a personal breath tester to check yourself after a big night so that you don't blow 1 or 2 mgm's. It might take 12 or even 24 hours to get that last trace of alcohol out of your system.
Some people might still show a reading 2 or 3 days later.
And, of course, unemployment would rise as the hospitality industry shrinks and all those actors in waiting (waiters) go on the dole.
Taxes would have to rise to compensate for the loss of revenue from alcohol sales.
Death rates from stress would rise because we can't have a relaxing ale after work.
It sounds all good to me.

Breath testers cost money - enough for quite a few cab fares home, being both pragmatic and part Scottish, I'd just opt for the cab fare.

Don't worry about the tax losses on on alcohol - the govt is making sure the smokers take up the slack...

[ManDownUnder]

...also 3 strikes and your out law for drink driver who commit 3 offences in 4 years. on the third offence vehicles will be impounded for 28 days, licence to be suspended for more than a year meaning offenders will need to resit their practical driving test at the end of disqualifcation period.

Got to admit - I have no problems at all with this bit - in fact I'd take it a step further... loss of licence for life after 3 DIC offences.

"You no learn - you no drive!"

I have this thing about other people deciding to put my life at risk...

[ManDownUnder]

So, with zero tolerance in place, you're nervously waiting for the evidential test. Have another quick suck on the inhaler 'cause you're a bit wheezy, and bingo! you blow 2 mgm's, guilty, executed on the spot. Thank you and goodbye.

Shame on you Lou -

you forgot to say *DING* - "NEXT!"