Buy from NZ? I tried but come on...

[Teflon]

I like ebay. click a couple of buttons and the shit turns up on your door step in 6 days. No fucking around + cunts from the states are good to deal with.

Super cheap is open on sundays so I buy my consumables from them.. some nice blondys who work there too

[Quasievil]

WARNING RANT AHEAD
This thread almost encourages me to stop my business and not bother really.
My Prices are good, my spec if better and lots of you fuckers go off shore to buy your gear so those that do FUCK YOU i hope the yanks and the euros are enjoying your money in their large T/O markets, and those that dont and support us Kiwis cheers and thank for the support but there are fewer of us around now and that number is falling.
Great stuff having a recession to top if all off!

You can go back to justifying how great the foreigners prices are and how eager you are spending your NZD with them, I will go back to wondering where the next sale is coming from to keep us going.
P.S you realise is all your doing is importing a cheaper wage for us all as well dont ya ??

RANT OVER as you where.

[Zamiam]

I import just about all the stuff for my Harley myself. After freight etc. items rarely cost me even 2/3rds of the nz price. Recently priced a replacement visor and chinbar for my helmet. $310 in nz plus 50k trip to pickup from nearest dealer. $nz220 delivered to my door and that includes $62 freight. By way of comparison visor costing $127 when they want $240 for one in nz. Chinbar 30 versus 70.

[Zamiam]

It's a global market and everyone buys on price and service. Most of us get better prices and service from overseas than we do here. I have stood in 3 different hd dealerships waiting for service over the last couple of years and in 2 cases gave up and in the 3rd the quoted item ($900) wouldn't even have fitted my bike. Don't blame those of us who work hard for our dollar wanting to get the best buy with that money. Blame the fucken do gooders who are driving nz business costs through the roof. The business owner has to recover those costs from those buying off them.

[98tls]

WARNING RANT AHEAD
This thread almost encourages me to stop my business and not bother really.
My Prices are good, my spec if better and lots of you fuckers go off shore to buy your gear so those that do FUCK YOU i hope the yanks and the euros are enjoying your money in their large T/O markets, and those that dont and support us Kiwis cheers and thank for the support but there are fewer of us around now and that number is falling.
Great stuff having a recession to top if all off!

You can go back to justifying how great the foreigners prices are and how eager you are spending your NZD with them, I will go back to wondering where the next sale is coming from to keep us going.
P.S you realise is all your doing is importing a cheaper wage for us all as well dont ya ??

RANT OVER as you where.

Goes back to whoever mentioned "research" eh,ive bought stuff off you and will again and believe me i am one of the worst "offenders" re buying stuff overseas.

[Smifffy]

WARNING RANT AHEAD
This thread almost encourages me to stop my business and not bother really.
My Prices are good, my spec if better and lots of you fuckers go off shore to buy your gear so those that do FUCK YOU i hope the yanks and the euros are enjoying your money in their large T/O markets, and those that dont and support us Kiwis cheers and thank for the support but there are fewer of us around now and that number is falling.
Great stuff having a recession to top if all off!

You can go back to justifying how great the foreigners prices are and how eager you are spending your NZD with them, I will go back to wondering where the next sale is coming from to keep us going.
P.S you realise is all your doing is importing a cheaper wage for us all as well dont ya ??

RANT OVER as you where.

I thought your prices were more than competitive with the online big name stuff?

That was what I had been hearing, anyway FWIW.

I was also under the impression that your main products were manufactured locally, or at least to your specifications, rather than being imported the same as any other and having a margin tacked on.

Whatever, I hope you don't go out of business, nor anyone else does for that matter. You have to know your market, and if the market suddenly disappears on you then you would probably like to understand why.

Not that I am suggesting that your market is disappearing from you, as I was under (perhaps the misguided) impression that it wasn't.

Best of luck to the entire NZ motorcycle industry - long may it prosper - just not at the expense of the ever demanding consumer.

What happened to the Model T ford when GM started to offer cars in colours other than black?

What hapened to GM when the Japs started offering cars that didn't require engine rebuilds at 70k clicks and got twice the fuel mileage?

What happened to the NZ assembly plants when the kiwi consumer discovered that it unlike an avenger or cortina, it didn't matter on which day of the week a corolla was assembled?

When Toyota started manufacturing cars, they didn't have mass production or economies of scale, they had clapped out WWII equipment and jap-crap muck metal to work with. All they could do was listen to their customers and find a way to deliver what they wanted at a profit.

There was probably more iron in a 60's toyota than there is in the latest chev suburban

Consumers will always expect more for less, whether the commodity is axes and blankets, or motherboards and memory.

If you don't believe that, I have a state of the art (once upon a time) P2 with 64mb of ram and 8 Gig hard drive I'll sell you for 3 grand, I'll even throw in a 56K modem, a 16x cd burner and a colour ink jet printer for free.

Of course I also wish I had a factory fresh model T in the garage to offer for sale, but that market is decidedly different to what it was in Henry's day.

This thread is about people being able to source the exact same item, at the exact same spec for significantly less than they are able to source it from anyone within NZ, for some strange reason. That being the case it is extremely difficult for the consumer to see where the extra value is being added. Several times the example has been given that it isn't even short lead times or availability.

Don't take it personally.

[Brian d marge]

WARNING RANT AHEAD
This thread almost encourages me to stop my business and not bother really.
My Prices are good, my spec if better and lots of you fuckers go off shore to buy your gear so those that do FUCK YOU i hope the yanks and the euros are enjoying your money in their large T/O markets, and those that dont and support us Kiwis cheers and thank for the support but there are fewer of us around now and that number is falling.
Great stuff having a recession to top if all off!

You can go back to justifying how great the foreigners prices are and how eager you are spending your NZD with them, I will go back to wondering where the next sale is coming from to keep us going.
P.S you realise is all your doing is importing a cheaper wage for us all as well dont ya ??

RANT OVER as you where.

See post 350 and what about people who use Japanese yen to buy from NZ? and this year I will be spending a lot more in NZ

Stephen

[Quasievil]

Yeah like I said, my Rant is over
Peace out, I actually am very lucky to be honest as I have a fantastic customer base and a great bunch of loyal people who help me hugely, for that im really grateful.

some of the posts kinda wound me up a tad, but I had a beer and im back to normal

[Smifffy]

Yeah like I said, my Rant is over
Peace out, I actually am very lucky to be honest as I have a fantastic customer base and a great bunch of loyal people who help me hugely, for that im really grateful.

some of the posts kinda wound me up a tad, but I had a beer and im back to normal

Domestic, or Import? Cheers!!

[98tls]

Yeah like I said, my Rant is over
Peace out, I actually am very lucky to be honest as I have a fantastic customer base and a great bunch of loyal people who help me hugely, for that im really grateful.

some of the posts kinda wound me up a tad, but I had a beer and im back to normal

Fwiw as i posted ive bought off you and will again,did so because the price seemed reasonable and from the "research" (that bloody word again) on here suggested the product was good which both times has proved true.Doubt you have much to worry about fella,good business practice = good business .

[warewolf]

outrageously, on close inspection, you'll find that they're they're just a $7.36c hunk of brass that you could piss-easily spin up to shape with a lathe and file in your own carshed from scrap-metal. And with a 72 cent spring and 31 cent bolt added. And having been disgustingly sold worldwide at hundreds of dollars a pair for years.

Materials: $10.00
Knowing how to put it together and tasking the risk of bringing it to market: priceless (or at least $100's, apparently).

[Robert Taylor]

Ah yes, patents.. Take the well known obscenely priced racetech emulators as an example, one of motorcyclings' most lousy pricing rip-offs from out of this last decade. A magnet for the various scurrying grifters and middlemen who will always shamelessly grasp at any half-chance to pilfer a profit for themselves from someone else's product.. Actually a good effective little gadget that smooths the big bumps out nicely from your old damper forks, but, outrageously, on close inspection, you'll find that they're they're just a $7.36c hunk of brass that you could piss-easily spin up to shape with a lathe and file in your own carshed from scrap-metal. And with a 72 cent spring and 31 cent bolt added. And having been disgustingly sold worldwide at hundreds of dollars a pair for years.

But, DIY kiwi ingenuity is no longer acceptable and ain't kosher or politically correct in todays modern world, and not leaving that sort of thing for the self-appointed experts should be frowned upon.. The experts say so.. So forget all that kiwi DIY in the carshed stuff sorry, those days have been well and truly stomped on by the people who "know better." "For the better."

Now the racetech emulator patent has expired there seems to be various other brands surfacing now, but you can bet your bottom dollar the propagandists who clutched and held the original patent for all that time will still try insisting and telling the gullible that the "alternative" brands of emulator are all nasty shit-junk that won't work and won't last - or "they're not as good as ours." In their minds it'll still be legitimate to keep ripping the public on price. Even though you can guarantee the "one brand only" propagandists have never even used the other stuff - in other words you won't find one iota of fucken proof that the new emulator brands are shit, and the suckered types will probably still dumbly shell-out big bucks on the "established" pricing-rip product out there without question, all based on very sleazy advice they hear from the middlemen who harbor hidden agendas...

It's a dog devour dog no-holds-barred business world alright, pity the inexperienced and the gullible as the "elite" darting-eyed money-takers all sit back briskly rubbing their palms, sneering and laughing as to how simple it all is to take the candy from all the clueless babies out there.....

I have the proof as I purchased and tested the copycat products. And youve got no idea how much work we have done with emulators. Plus our own one in development that is NOT a copy and with the right settings works way better. Of course there will be the matter of offsetting the development costs if we decide to commercialise them, understand if you will

[Robert Taylor]

Ah yes, patents.. Take the well known obscenely priced racetech emulators as an example, one of motorcyclings' most lousy pricing rip-offs from out of this last decade. A magnet for the various scurrying grifters and middlemen who will always shamelessly grasp at any half-chance to pilfer a profit for themselves from someone else's product.. Actually a good effective little gadget that smooths the big bumps out nicely from your old damper forks, but, outrageously, on close inspection, you'll find that they're they're just a $7.36c hunk of brass that you could piss-easily spin up to shape with a lathe and file in your own carshed from scrap-metal. And with a 72 cent spring and 31 cent bolt added. And having been disgustingly sold worldwide at hundreds of dollars a pair for years.

But, DIY kiwi ingenuity is no longer acceptable and ain't kosher or politically correct in todays modern world, and not leaving that sort of thing for the self-appointed experts should be frowned upon.. The experts say so.. So forget all that kiwi DIY in the carshed stuff sorry, those days have been well and truly stomped on by the people who "know better." "For the better."

Now the racetech emulator patent has expired there seems to be various other brands surfacing now, but you can bet your bottom dollar the propagandists who clutched and held the original patent for all that time will still try insisting and telling the gullible that the "alternative" brands of emulator are all nasty shit-junk that won't work and won't last - or "they're not as good as ours." In their minds it'll still be legitimate to keep ripping the public on price. Even though you can guarantee the "one brand only" propagandists have never even used the other stuff - in other words you won't find one iota of fucken proof that the new emulator brands are shit, and the suckered types will probably still dumbly shell-out big bucks on the "established" pricing-rip product out there without question, all based on very sleazy advice they hear from the middlemen who harbor hidden agendas...

It's a dog devour dog no-holds-barred business world alright, pity the inexperienced and the gullible as the "elite" darting-eyed money-takers all sit back briskly rubbing their palms, sneering and laughing as to how simple it all is to take the candy from all the clueless babies out there.....

BTW if you want to call people thieves via tags think about having the guts to do it in print and disclose exactly who you are. Gutless....

[Smifffy]

BTW if you want to call people thieves via tags think about having the guts to do it in print and disclose exactly who you are. Gutless....

Totally agree, fortunately for me I never scroll down that far lol.

[ynot slow]

Yeah like I said, my Rant is over
Peace out, I actually am very lucky to be honest as I have a fantastic customer base and a great bunch of loyal people who help me hugely, for that im really grateful.

some of the posts kinda wound me up a tad, but I had a beer and im back to normal

Hope it aint Waikato beer.Can't complain with my gear and cost to me,trousers $75,jacket $150,cordura jacket$100,gloves $90 (only crap when soaked lol)the fact I seem to be looking when you have a clean out/sample sale is fine by me,and the price and quality is hard to beat(in fact unbeatable for what it cost me).