Buy from NZ? I tried but come on...

[PeeJay]

Whats the difference between CKT importing Ohlins and me importing Ohlins?
Thats right NOTHING.
The actual importing and remitting of funds overseas, it doesnt matter who does it, the private importer or the "authorised agent" money still goes overseas.
The reason importers import goods isnt to create kiwi jobs, it is to turn a profit.
A private import ? rather than profit, a better price. generally speaking.

Now if Ohlins had a factory in NZ producing shocks for the local market and for export, employing a few kiwis, paying taxes etc well then I would have some sympathy for their situation because private imports of Ohlins will affect kiwi jobs etc etc etc.

Note I am NOT talking about the services CKT provides (hard to import those) only the importing of goods.

My point is this
A lot of the retailers/importers bleating by about private imports conveniently leave out a critical bit of info, they are also sending money offshore to pay for all these goods
The only employment directly related to someone importing gear is related to storing it and selling it. ie if you have truckloads of gear you probably need a storeman and maybe some sort of sales guy
Another misleading bleat, business importer has to pay gst, forgets to mention that gst is refunded.
The ONLY extra the business importer may have to pay is $50-$100 brokerage/fees per shipment.
Another bit of info, business imports have the same fee & gst free limits as private importers, ie less than $1000 maybe free, less than $400 no fees no gst

So if you wish to buy something overseas, go for it, you are not causing the downfall of the NZ way of life.

[idleidolidyll]

one reason for our high costs is that some of our brands are sub agencies from across the Tasman.

The aussies clip the ticket and do bugger all for us

i'm not interested in supporting aussies economy and prefer to deal with local agancies if i can

[Digitdion]

Whats the difference between CKT importing Ohlins and me importing Ohlins?
Thats right NOTHING.
The actual importing and remitting of funds overseas, it doesnt matter who does it, the private importer or the "authorised agent" money still goes overseas.
The reason importers import goods isnt to create kiwi jobs, it is to turn a profit.
A private import ? rather than profit, a better price. generally speaking.

Now if Ohlins had a factory in NZ producing shocks for the local market and for export, employing a few kiwis, paying taxes etc well then I would have some sympathy for their situation because private imports of Ohlins will affect kiwi jobs etc etc etc.

Note I am NOT talking about the services CKT provides (hard to import those) only the importing of goods.

My point is this
A lot of the retailers/importers bleating by about private imports conveniently leave out a critical bit of info, they are also sending money offshore to pay for all these goods
The only employment directly related to someone importing gear is related to storing it and selling it. ie if you have truckloads of gear you probably need a storeman and maybe some sort of sales guy
Another misleading bleat, business importer has to pay gst, forgets to mention that gst is refunded.
The ONLY extra the business importer may have to pay is $50-$100 brokerage/fees per shipment.
Another bit of info, business imports have the same fee & gst free limits as private importers, ie less than $1000 maybe free, less than $400 no fees no gst

So if you wish to buy something overseas, go for it, you are not causing the downfall of the NZ way of life.

Hear Here!

[pzkpfw]

Nobody in N.Z. even really stocks bits for my bike. And I know someone who used a dealer to order a bit for his bike (which was the same as mine) and when it turned out to be the wrong bit, it was his problem not the dealers. What's the point?

[ynot slow]

A case and point,Lazy boy lounge suites(can't be bothered spelling properly as brand name)used to be made in Takapuna,then they decided to import some styles,mostly leather,then added more and more,till they do stuff all manufacturing(compared to 5-10yrs ago).

Now retailers can import their own container and sell,we used to bring a 40' container in twice or three times year,and that was a 2 store company,usually ended up with about 10x3piece suites,20 chairs etc,not cheap as paid for in us$,but delivery 5 months out was interesting.

[Robert Taylor]

Mods can you please remove the less than endearing reference to my name. The author of it has no idea of the cost of being in business nor does he pay any credence to the HUGE amount of foc help we offer to anyone that asks. This forum, like many really is an insight into the often nasty side of human nature. Im prepared to think the best of people but its hard to not be cynical and mistrustful of people that are so callous and hide behind forum names. That is gutless and even people that I amintermittently at odds with ( like Shaun ) have my grudging respect in having the guts to be totally up front who they are.

[Smifffy]

Mods can you please remove the less than endearing reference to my name. The author of it has no idea of the cost of being in business nor does he pay any credence to the HUGE amount of foc help we offer to anyone that asks. This forum, like many really is an insight into the often nasty side of human nature. Im prepared to think the best of people but its hard to not be cynical and mistrustful of people that are so callous and hide behind forum names. That is gutless and even people that I amintermittently at odds with ( like Shaun ) have my grudging respect in having the guts to be totally up front who they are.

Good call, robust discussion is one thing snarky name calling is something else.

+1

[Quasievil]

So if you wish to buy something overseas, go for it, you are not causing the downfall of the NZ way of life.

Proof again that KB is full of morons

[onearmedbandit]

Proof again that KB is full of morons

From one person's opinion you formed that conclusion? I guess that helps prove your point though doesn't it?

[Robert Taylor]

Whats the difference between CKT importing Ohlins and me importing Ohlins?
Thats right NOTHING.
The actual importing and remitting of funds overseas, it doesnt matter who does it, the private importer or the "authorised agent" money still goes overseas.
The reason importers import goods isnt to create kiwi jobs, it is to turn a profit.
A private import ? rather than profit, a better price. generally speaking.

Now if Ohlins had a factory in NZ producing shocks for the local market and for export, employing a few kiwis, paying taxes etc well then I would have some sympathy for their situation because private imports of Ohlins will affect kiwi jobs etc etc etc.

Note I am NOT talking about the services CKT provides (hard to import those) only the importing of goods.

My point is this
A lot of the retailers/importers bleating by about private imports conveniently leave out a critical bit of info, they are also sending money offshore to pay for all these goods
The only employment directly related to someone importing gear is related to storing it and selling it. ie if you have truckloads of gear you probably need a storeman and maybe some sort of sales guy
Another misleading bleat, business importer has to pay gst, forgets to mention that gst is refunded.
The ONLY extra the business importer may have to pay is $50-$100 brokerage/fees per shipment.
Another bit of info, business imports have the same fee & gst free limits as private importers, ie less than $1000 maybe free, less than $400 no fees no gst

So if you wish to buy something overseas, go for it, you are not causing the downfall of the NZ way of life.

Remind me then not to support anything that you derive income from and to encourage others to do exactly the same,
Aside from the fact there is a lot you havent grasped its not lost on me that we have sorted a LOT of suspension units out that were privately imported on the false belief that a huge saving was to be made. The big issue was that the resellers in the States have no idea about our local roading conditions.
Backup is a big thing or am I just old fashioned? Or do I just abhor the dog eat dog mentality this country has degenerated to ?
Proudly, my business offers backup, we are not ''perfect'' most of the time but we are tenacious in helping people. That is a point of difference.
I will help my countrymen before any faceless foreigner, as long as its fair and reasonable

[Robert Taylor]

Good call, robust discussion is one thing snarky name calling is something else.

+1

I also think that the tagline ''boycott NZ retailers'' is disgusting, its also therefore meaning ''boycott NZ employers'' who provide income for ordinary everyday kiwis. Quasi is not so wrong, there are many good people that read and contribute to KB, but also there are indeed morons....

[Robert Taylor]

one reason for our high costs is that some of our brands are sub agencies from across the Tasman.

The aussies clip the ticket and do bugger all for us

i'm not interested in supporting aussies economy and prefer to deal with local agancies if i can

My socialist friend I agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying and that is the one biggest anomoly in my mainly tory beliefs.
The reality is there are plenty of middlemen clipping the ticket for precious little effort.

[Robert Taylor]

Whats the difference between CKT importing Ohlins and me importing Ohlins?
Thats right NOTHING.
The actual importing and remitting of funds overseas, it doesnt matter who does it, the private importer or the "authorised agent" money still goes overseas.
The reason importers import goods isnt to create kiwi jobs, it is to turn a profit.
A private import ? rather than profit, a better price. generally speaking.

Now if Ohlins had a factory in NZ producing shocks for the local market and for export, employing a few kiwis, paying taxes etc well then I would have some sympathy for their situation because private imports of Ohlins will affect kiwi jobs etc etc etc.

Note I am NOT talking about the services CKT provides (hard to import those) only the importing of goods.

My point is this
A lot of the retailers/importers bleating by about private imports conveniently leave out a critical bit of info, they are also sending money offshore to pay for all these goods
The only employment directly related to someone importing gear is related to storing it and selling it. ie if you have truckloads of gear you probably need a storeman and maybe some sort of sales guy
Another misleading bleat, business importer has to pay gst, forgets to mention that gst is refunded.
The ONLY extra the business importer may have to pay is $50-$100 brokerage/fees per shipment.
Another bit of info, business imports have the same fee & gst free limits as private importers, ie less than $1000 maybe free, less than $400 no fees no gst

So if you wish to buy something overseas, go for it, you are not causing the downfall of the NZ way of life.

We had to shed one staff member last year because of the effect of private imports, not wholly down to that but it was a substanial factor.

Clearly you know a lot about this so why dont you try it?

[MarkH]

I also think that the tagline ''boycott NZ retailers'' is disgusting

I don't know about disgusting - but I completely disagree with the idea! I'm all for people being free to buy from wherever they like and obviously there are plenty of rip-off merchants that don't deserve our patronage, but there are plenty of good retailers that offer goods at a fair price and stand behind their products - no one should be boycotting them!

[onearmedbandit]

I also think that the tagline ''boycott NZ retailers'' is disgusting, its also therefore meaning ''boycott NZ employers'' who provide income for ordinary everyday kiwis. Quasi is not so wrong, there are many good people that read and contribute to KB, but also there are indeed morons....

I'm happy to remove the tags that slandered your business. Anything else is fair game pretty much.