Yet another Coromandel fatality

[bsasuper]

Went for a little tootle this morning and the popo are out in force with speed traps aplenty, using their wisdom to stop more of this happening.Can only hope people keep cool and there is no more sad news.

[Jantar]

..... Exceeding the open road speed limit at that point may be significantly less of a factor than crossing the centreline .....

....Not implying the guys were speeding myself,but the news on tv did say the officer in charge indicated speed was a factor......

Thankyou both. I have only been over that piece of road a couple of times, and only once in daylight. My thoughts were that it didn't matter if the enforcement was was to be at only 5km over the limit as it is very unlikely that either were actually at the limit in those twisty sections.

Of course speed was a factor as if there was no speed involved then they wouldn't even be moving. That doesn't presuppose that either rider was exceeding any arbitary speed limit, just that one may have been too fast for the conditions or for his own ability.

[MSTRS:Me]

Of course speed was a factor as if there was no speed involved then they wouldn't even be moving. That doesn't presuppose that either rider was exceeding any arbitary speed limit, just that one may have been too fast for the conditions or for his own ability.

Correct. But the dumbed-down message for the braindead out there (most of 'em?) is 'speed = bad'. Adding the word 'inappropriate' is just too much for the collective braincell to process...

[Spearfish]

Correct. But the dumbed-down message for the braindead out there (most of 'em?) is 'speed = bad'. Adding the word 'inappropriate' is just too much for the collective braincell to process...

Speed wont be a problem for the rider who committed vehicular homicide, maybe consequence will kick him as hard as it kicked his victim, who knows?

Plenty of my and your money will go into patching him up and send him on his way and rightly so, shyt the rights of the murdering fuck is what we protested for aye?
Like fuck it did!!

[terbang]

I have to agree, cross the centreline and take someone out. You killed them!

[crazyhorse]

We were up there the day before, and the weather was lovely

My thoughts to all concerned for their loss

[Shaun]

Exactly, my sentiments too !.

+1 to that

[Tink]

Oh Shit moments can happen on any road at any time. That said, why would anyone want to ride the Coro during holiday season?




The dead rider was apparently innocent of wrong-doing. No-one is 'disrespecting' him, are they?

That is not what I mean, it was a generalization, not saying anyone was at fault, thats not my way! EDIT: I feel for both riders... no accident is blameless, how do two vehicles collide on two seperate lanes, they don't someone had to make a mistake, and that was it ... a mistake sadly!

[MSTRS:Me]

But there was fault. If the cock stayed within his skills and lane, the other rider wouldn't have been killed and this thread wouldn't exist.

[marty]

how do we know the alleged offending rider didn't have a blow out, or a bee sting, or a heart attack, and lose control while travelling at or below the speed limit?

[ynot slow]

But there was fault. If the cock stayed within his skills and lane, the other rider wouldn't have been killed and this thread wouldn't exist.

And he'll live with that if he survives(brain injuries excluded and remembers).At Okoroire pub,a group of guys left on harleys,most still there commented about an accident waiting,a couple on a cruiser arrived about 10 mins later,we got talking to them about shit,and they said yep,they came around a right hand corner to find 3 bikes wide in correct lane and another in their lane just missing them.The cruiser guy(about mid 50's)could see them coming towards him as he rode down a hill,so slowed and kept left in his lane.

Who knows with the hot weather,later nights combined with a few beers the body gets dehydrated,the reflexes get slower,so you may think I'm in my lane but a bird flies out,swerve a bit,next moment crash,maybe a little bin,maybe you die.

[doc]

You trolling.This is KB. Assumption = fact

[blackdog]

But there was fault. If the cock stayed within his skills and lane, the other rider wouldn't have been killed and this thread wouldn't exist.

another assumption at this stage i'm afraid. until you have read an accident investigation report, or were there, you are completely unqualified to rule out environmental factors or mechanical failure.

only when we are able to state with certainty that it was solely caused by the rider should we be attributing blame.

[blackdog]

how do we know the alleged offending rider didn't have a blow out, or a bee sting, or a heart attack, and lose control while travelling at or below the speed limit?

my point exactly. you just beat me to it

[Owl]

how do we know the alleged offending rider didn't have a blow out, or a bee sting, or a heart attack, and lose control while travelling at or below the speed limit?

We don't, but since when has that stopped the KB clan