Getting a licence transfered from the Cook Islands?

[Pascal]

I am lazy. Terribly lazy. And busy. So I've been on my 6L for 2, almost 2 1/2 years now. Does that make me a safer driver? No, probably not. I've had little experience with highway speeds - most of my riding is in the confines of Auckland.

But, having been born in South Africa I thought - following on p.dath's link - how easy it would be to get my full license in South Africa and have it transferred here.

And have a look at this ...

http://www.flamesonmytank.co.za/license.htm

I'm not sure if that is shite or real, I'm now curious enough to go do some serious digging. But that looks like the equivalent of a basic handling test here! And you can convert that straight to a full here without having to do the practical test?

That seems pretty fucked up.

[Pascal]

And then my repost made it show. Argh? Ignore this post.

[davereid]

What is so hard about getting a New Zealand licence ? it may be that you have to lift your riding standard ? but is that susch a bad thing?

[Pascal]

What is so hard about getting a New Zealand licence ? it may be that you have to lift your riding standard ? but is that susch a bad thing?

Nothing, really. I don't think the NZ license is difficult, from a personal perspective. As I said, I am lazy/busy. I've been on a 6L for over 2 years now, because I never seem to make the time to move on to a R and then F license. There is always something else to do and as I don't have enough money at the moment to buy the bike I want, I don't have an incentive to do it either.

But I did find it interesting that the South African full license test is so much simpler than the NZ one. Why would NZ / LTSA accept that as an equivalent license that needs no full test? It shouldn't be.

[avgas]

Nothing, really. I don't think the NZ license is difficult, from a personal perspective. As I said, I am lazy/busy. I've been on a 6L for over 2 years now, because I never seem to make the time to move on to a R and then F license. There is always something else to do and as I don't have enough money at the moment to buy the bike I want, I don't have an incentive to do it either.

Sorry I think your logic is broken.
Lazy - you are too lazy to sit 2 x half hour tests.....but don't mind booking flights and accommodation, and 1 licensed test out of NZ?
Busy - etc etc
No money - huh? when were flights cheaper than a license? Also no money pretty much means no new bike so why the big bore license?

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[Toaster]

Exactly. Good observation there Avgas.

[Pascal]

Sorry I think your logic is broken.
Lazy - you are too lazy to sit 2 x half hour tests.....but don't mind booking flights and accommodation, and 1 licensed test out of NZ?
Busy - etc etc
No money - huh? when were flights cheaper than a license? Also no money pretty much means no new bike so why the big bore license?

I think you are missing something core here. I am not intending to go to South Africa to transfer my license. Do you really think I'd be dumb enough to pay NZ$2500 for a 18 hour flight, accomodation, etc. just to get a license?

Re-read my post.

I read p.dath's link, noticed South Africa is on the list of countries, and looked at what their system requires. It's called curiosity. And then re-posted it here as I do not think a South African full license should be convertable to a NZ one as their full license test is not up to scratch.

Understand?

[avgas]

I think you are missing something core here. I am not intending to go to South Africa to transfer my license. Do you really think I'd be dumb enough to pay NZ$2500 for a 18 hour flight, accomodation, etc. just to get a license?

Re-read my post.

I read p.dath's link, noticed South Africa is on the list of countries, and looked at what their system requires. It's called curiosity. And then re-posted it here as I do not think a South African full license should be convertable to a NZ one as their full license test is not up to scratch.

Understand?

Actually I knew you would not be stupid enough to go all the way to S.A. so was referring more to the Cook Is.

As for the S.A. license not being up to scratch - does it convert to a full NZ license or do you actually have to sit your full test?
Many of my friends thought they could transfer to a full license only to find they had to sit a practical test still.

[Pascal]

As for the S.A. license not being up to scratch - does it convert to a full NZ license or do you actually have to sit your full test?

Going from this link provided earlier in the thread ...

• Australia
• Austria
• Belgium
• Canada
• Denmark
• Finland
• France
• Germany
• Greece
• Ireland
• Italy
• Japan
• Luxembourg
• Norway
• Portugal
• South Africa
• Spain
• Sweden
• Switzerland
• The Netherlands
• United Kingdom
• United States of America

That is the list of countries from which holders of driver licence or permit not required to sit practical driving test.

The South African test (As far as I can see) is done on a hard surface about quarter the size of a rugby field. Quoting from that site:

It has painted lines on it which, should you ride over with either tyre, you will be failed. In this very confined space you have to quickly pull off, change into second gear, reach 25kph (15m from the starting point) and then start the task outlined e.g. stopping, swerving, changing lanes etc. Your speed is checked by a speed trap and if you are too slow you have to re-do the exercise (faster is OK) Guys with large, heavy motorcycles will find the exercises more difficult than those on a smaller bike as a result of the confined spaces.

It tests the following things:

• Speed control. Bringing the motorbike to a halt at an exact point. (This is not an emergency stop)
• Emergency stop. Bringing the motorbike to a stop as quickly as possible
• Swerving. Sudden swerving from one lane into another to avoid an obstacle.
• Changing lanes. The examiner will be looking for two blind spot checks during the exercise and the appropriate use of the indicator
• Travelling in town.
• Taking off on an incline without rolling back
• Turning in a confined space while maintaining your balance.
• Left and right hand turn.

Now as an example, the test for "Travelling in town" says:

Check blind spot, pull off from the start position and change into second gear. Keep between the lines (about 1m apart). Check blind spots and then indicate your intention to turn left. Check blind spot again, turn left and stop before the line. Check blind spot, indicate, turn left again, accelerate and turn off indicator.

This exercise is done at your own pace.

In a controlled environment? Damn.

[Daffyd]

No information available as all those that did mange this died through inexperience

I didn't know you could die from the mange.

[cbfb]

I didn't know you could die from the mange.

In cases of Sarcoptic mange, affected dogs need to be isolated from other dogs and their bedding, and places they have occupied must be thoroughly cleaned. Other dogs in contact with a diagnosed case should be evaluated and treated. It is often cheaper and easier to send dogs to the Cook Islands for treatment.