Wanker Cop

[spudchucka]

I can't recall mentioning you or your occupation.

Neither can I. You seemed to make a blanket referal to all members who have posted in the thread so I guess you are including me in that group too.

As for my occupation, I only mention that as I belive the experiences I have gained in that job mean that I have more than just a little to back up my position on this issue.

[spudchucka]

MUST BE HARD TO BE A COP WEEDING OUT THE SHIT DRIVERS , SOME BITCH CUT ME OFF THIS MORNING ON MY WAY TO WORK I HAD TO SWERVE AND I DROPPED MY ELECTRIC SHAVER INTO MY CORNFLAKES WHICH SPLASHED MILK ALL OVER MY HERALD, FUCKEN MILK ALL OVER MY SPEEDO AND WINDSCREEN

You were wearing Speedo's, shaving (what exactly) and spilling your milk all over the windscreen.

[Ixion]

MUST BE HARD TO BE A COP WEEDING OUT THE SHIT DRIVERS , SOME BITCH CUT ME OFF THIS MORNING ON MY WAY TO WORK I HAD TO SWERVE AND I DROPPED MY ELECTRIC SHAVER INTO MY CORNFLAKES WHICH SPLASHED MILK ALL OVER MY HERALD, FUCKEN MILK ALL OVER MY SPEEDO AND WINDSCREEN

I didn't know your bike had a windscreen ?

[spudchucka]

A fail youth result indicates that the alcohol level is over the youth limit (150) but under the adult limit (400).

Once upon a time I felt sorry for drivers that got done for just over the limit (400). But after doing my own random tests I have figured out that it takes quite a lot of piss to get a reading at that level. I've been what I would consider fairly well pissed, (to a level that there is no way I would consider driving), and still blown under the adult limit. I don't feel sorry for those people anymore because it is actually a fair quantity of booze.

Lou is right though, every one is differen't and the amount of booze it takes me to reach that level would probably kill my wife as she is about half my size. The actual amount of booze required to push a person over the adult limit is totally relevant to the individual. However the limit, once reached, has pretty similar effects of impairment on most people.

400 micrograms of booze per litre of breath or 80 milligrams of booze per 100 mls of blood, it all equals pissed in common language, the only variant is how much booze it takes YOU to get there.

[Ixion]

On reflection, I think the "confiscate keys if over youth limit" thing is reasonable.

Parliament has said that if you drive with more than 400 squigllies per cubic wossatwiddley , then you are so dangerous on the road that you should be severely punished.

But what of the person who has 390 ? They will not be punished, but if 400 is so dangerous as to merit a serious penalty, can we regard 390 as safe? Surely not, and in that case taking keys, getting taxi is reasonable and sensible.

But then, where do we draw a lower line ?

Since the only other definitive limit that Parliament has set is the lower 150 figure, it seems a reasonable rule of thumb to use that as the "OK, safe to proceed but take care "figure. Otherwise how are you going to pick a number ?

It would be better if Parliament regularised matters by setting a "Ordered off the road" limit, but until they do they 150 figure is as reasonable as any.

[WINJA]

You were wearing Speedo's, shaving (what exactly) and spilling your milk all over the windscreen.

MY MORNINGS ARE ALWAYS HECTIC

[WINJA]

I didn't know your bike had a windscreen ?

COMPANY CAR MATE , VERY COOL NEVER NEEDS WASHING ,NEVER NEEDS WARMING UP AND CAN VALVE BOUNCE IN EVERY GEAR

[scumdog]

COMPANY CAR MATE , VERY COOL NEVER NEEDS WASHING ,NEVER NEEDS WARMING UP AND CAN VALVE BOUNCE IN EVERY GEAR

Sounds like MY company car!- you're not a cop are you?

[scumdog]

With all due respect SD..... If you did it to me..... you'd get a complaint!!

Just because some people wont/can't stand up for their rights does not mean they should be forfeited.

Go for it sunshine, you blow 390 and you get a lift home - and we keep the keys.

[250learna]

Here's the original post:

250 doesn't explain with very much detail the actual words spoken. He asked to be breath tested and was declined. I don't see how you can conclude from this post what the cops attitude was or whether he was arrogant. I think that there is a great deal of stereotyping and assuming going on here.





I'm sorry, who was it that has the bad attitude?

Well it is also obvious that you dont know me, i am NEVER rude without reason, and it takes a bit to get me there. I asked him nicely he didnt say sorry m8, he said I have one, but not for you in a very arrogant/rude tone. I am by no means one of them cop haters, im polite when i get pulled over regardles of the reason etc this guy was being a prick for no reason

next time ill write a book for you detailing the words and how they are spoken (inc body language) AND explaining all the emotions that go through my head as events take place, i mite even take some photos and video footage for you too buddy

[Clockwork]

Go for it sunshine, you blow 390 and you get a lift home - and we keep the keys.

Ahhhh..... well if you're offering a lift home I might be more forgiving.

Seriously, I have no idea what it takes to breach the limit and the propaganda over the years hasn't helped. There was a time when the word was that 2 beers or wines in an hour would put you close. Funnily enough, when they were trying to lower the limit a couple of years ago the song getting sung was very different (more along Spud's observations). Now it seems to be going back the other way again.

I'm inclined to accept Spud's statement about how much it takes to be over the and on that basis would support a lowering of the limit but not if it carried the current limit's penalties.

[Lou Girardin]

On reflection, I think the "confiscate keys if over youth limit" thing is reasonable.

Since the only other definitive limit that Parliament has set is the lower 150 figure, it seems a reasonable rule of thumb to use that as the "OK, safe to proceed but take care "figure. Otherwise how are you going to pick a number ?

It would be better if Parliament regularised matters by setting a "Ordered off the road" limit, but until they do they 150 figure is as reasonable as any.

You contradict yourself.
Then advocate punishing people when they haven't committed an offence!
What next? Forbidding people to drive if they fail to give way? That's dangerous too and if they're allowed to drive on they may do it again.
Better still, how about 1 traffic offence and you may never drive again.

[spudchucka]

I am by no means one of them cop haters, im polite when i get pulled over regardles of the reason etc this guy was being a prick for no reason

Unless of course the outcome isn't as you wish it to be and then you hope that he gets knocked of his bike by a drunk and ends up in a hospital bed.

You're a dickhead mate if thats how you really think.

[spudchucka]

What next? Forbidding people to drive if they fail to give way?

Good thinking Lou, I'll e-mail your idea to Robby & George on your behalf.

[Ixion]

You contradict yourself.
Then advocate punishing people when they haven't committed an offence!
What next? Forbidding people to drive if they fail to give way? That's dangerous too and if they're allowed to drive on they may do it again.
Better still, how about 1 traffic offence and you may never drive again.

No, on reflection I changed my mind. And I do not advocate anything. I just say that I agree that the police position is reasonable. If 400 is dangerous enough to be charged, then 399 can't be completely safe. And Parliament has given police the right to forbid a driver to drive if they have reasonable grounds for thinking them impaired. 399 on the blowy machiney thing seems reasonable grounds. And as you go down the numbers, where do you draw the line and say its not reasonable grounds? I guess you could pick any number , but until Parliament sets a figure , the 150 number is as arguable as any.

If the forbidding to drive thing is punishing people (I am not sure that it is) then the complaint must lie to Parliament, who have given the police that power, not to the police for using it.

I guess if a cop detected that a driver was going through giveway signs because of some impairment (left his glasses at home? ) he might forbid him to drive in that case also. But going through a give way sign would not normally indicate impairment. Just stupidity or carelessness.

Won't say I'd be very happy if it happened to me, especially if it left me stuck in BumFuck, Nowhere. But I guess the answer is to do what I do if I'm going to be riding. Don't drink (I'm not a teetotaller, I just don't drink if I'm going to be on the bike)