Progression of a total motorcycle noob

[Katman]

Done under duress shows how stupidly proud I am.

Did you ever take up Kiwifruit's offer of some practical tuition?

Or were you too stupidly proud for that as well?

[tbs]

Meh, you're much the same as that other retard who used to frequent this site posting videos of himself riding like a clown. He watched two of his mates die on the side of the road and still learned nothing.

Funnily enough, he claimed to be a good God fearing christian as well.

The Astronaut John Glenn said it best when he said "Putting yourself in harm's way and then relying on God to get you out of trouble is no kind of faith at all".


Grantman, I too believe in God, and I'm willing to concede that he kept you alive for a reason.... or maybe he just let the dice roll and you came up Aces. Only He knows.

But I want you to think about this: If God kept you alive for a reason, it isn't anything to do with what or who you are now. It is because the kind of man you could grow up to become. And I reckon a good start on that journey would be to STOP TALKING AND START LISTENING to some of the older and wiser heads around here.
Oh, and go and read up on the apostle Paul's comments on pride.

[Glowerss]

Did you ever take up Kiwifruit's offer of some practical tuition?

Or were you too stupidly proud for that as well?

I thought kiwifruit offered practical tuition to that cock on a ZX6r who posted that video of himself being a dick on the highway, then the video of him crashing at like 10kph the first time he found even the slightest corner, and fucked himself up something fierce magically. Name escapes me at the moment.

Don't think that was grantman. Granted, the squids with cameras all sort of look the same.

[Ender EnZed]

I thought kiwifruit offered practical tuition to that cock on a ZX6r who posted that video of himself being a dick on the highway, then the video of him crashing at like 10kph the first time he found even the slightest corner, and fucked himself up something fierce magically. Name escapes me at the moment.

Don't think that was grantman. Granted, the squids with cameras all sort of look the same.

Westy_Tard

[GrayWolf]

Okay, let's address this knee down issue because I find it vexing.

Have you ever scraped your pegs on a public road? If you have, you've done something 10x 'worse' than getting your knee down.
Have you nearly scraped your pegs on a public road? If you have, you've done the equivalent of getting your knee down.

The same statements apply to bikes offering minimal lean ability. The point being you are operating at/near-to the bikes cornering limit.

Of course those unfamiliar with hanging off and touching down recognise it as risky - for themselves. Those that can do it with their eyes closed recognise it as a means to corner tighter for any given lean angle, feel how much lean is in reserve, and stay in peak touch with bike and road. Certainly I found it much safer as opposed to leaning near the limit in upright position - being completely at home with it.

Effectively what some are saying is that people should not lean their bikes past a certain degree on a public road. Knee down is irrelevant. I can understand that statement.

Another major issue is the, innate for many, desire to find the limit. Knee down, and also the act of nearly scraping your pegs, is operating near the limit. 'Learning' to that point is best not done amongst traffic if you value life. Near maximum lean on any bike = Knee down.

Grantman' to put it bluntly.. utter bloody shite!!!
You've learnt nothing..... Knee down is a 'track technique'... watch the IOM TT race, which is done on REAL roads, not a track.. ther is no 'knee down' antics performed. Sticking the knee out was started by John Surtees, because an MV he rode handled so badly it was the only way he could get it to corner.... BTW J Surtees is called 'Mr Stylist'. Hailwood, Agostini, Surtees....look them up on Youtube and learn how a bike can be ridden extremely fast without climbing all over it.. Surtees till recently still rode club racing, and using his 'clasic style' still gave outstanding lap times....
You were/are a bloody newbie and reckon you were 'completely' at home with riding with your knee out? I watched the vid of your ride on the CBR250.... on any one of those corners you left yourself 0% in reserve.. in fact you were 100% hard out, on corners that you didnt need to be 100% hard out on...... and as my wee 'spill' last weekend shows, you dont need to be at 100% to break concentration for a split second, fuck up your line entering a corner, and dump your arse on the road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yv6fXm2JBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUqgsykSsuo

[ducatilover]

Isle of Man knee down, just to be a dick


I'll get me coat 'n leave now

[Quasi]

Bloody wonderful videos Graywolf. Thanks!

Grantman' to put it bluntly.. utter bloody shite!!!
You've learnt nothing..... Knee down is a 'track technique'... watch the IOM TT race, which is done on REAL roads, not a track.. ther is no 'knee down' antics performed. Sticking the knee out was started by John Surtees, because an MV he rode handled so badly it was the only way he could get it to corner.... BTW J Surtees is called 'Mr Stylist'. Hailwood, Agostini, Surtees....look them up on Youtube and learn how a bike can be ridden extremely fast without climbing all over it.. Surtees till recently still rode club racing, and using his 'clasic style' still gave outstanding lap times....
You were/are a bloody newbie and reckon you were 'completely' at home with riding with your knee out? I watched the vid of your ride on the CBR250.... on any one of those corners you left yourself 0% in reserve.. in fact you were 100% hard out, on corners that you didnt need to be 100% hard out on...... and as my wee 'spill' last weekend shows, you dont need to be at 100% to break concentration for a split second, fuck up your line entering a corner, and dump your arse on the road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yv6fXm2JBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUqgsykSsuo

[scracha]

Well at least Grantman is honest about road not being a racetrack

Seriously though, does anyone else reckon it'd be a good thing for the mods to sticky the OP with a couple of hyperlinks to the crash posts. Clearly demonstrates how useless the whole learners process and test is. Also put a link to a couple of other "new biker nervous -> yay passed my test -> bugger in hospital within a week" threads. R6 anyone?

[Grantman_]

Always onward. Carving up the track on the MC22. What a fantastic machine this has been, and still is.

[BigAl]

Great footage Grant, you were really holding your own against those 600s.

Horse power is sometimes a disadvantage as that guy who high sided showed, bugger.

Bet the bike was not pretty

[bosslady]

Well this sure has been an interesting thread. As a learner myself I'm certainly in no position to comment on rider ability and technique. What strikes me is gosh... I don't know... I'm speechless.You're everything I would never want to be and that's all I can say. And yes, I did read from start to finish... Unbelievable.

[Glowerss]

Always onward. Carving up the track on the MC22. What a fantastic machine this has been, and still is.

You did fairly well on the track against the bigger machines. Love hearing a 250 IL4 screaming its head off. Well done on taking that kind of riding to the track where that shit belongs.

You might survive a bit longer if you can restrain yourself and keep it off the streat

Good to see you upright and on two wheels again, however. I wouldn't ever wish ill on another rider, so glad you came out alright

[ducatilover]

I would be quite embarrassed when I get dicked by a guy on a CBR with less than half the HP of my ZX6...
Nice riding dude, impressive and it looked fun

(btw, I'll give you a drag race on my GN )

[GrayWolf]

I would be quite embarrassed when I get dicked by a guy on a CBR with less than half the HP of my ZX6...
Nice riding dude, impressive and it looked fun

(btw, I'll give you a drag race on my GN )

BOLLOX,
try riding over the 'taka's on an FJ1200, and being OVERTAKEN by a smokey, ratshit looking 150cc smoker.......... Enter Quallman....

[ducatilover]

BOLLOX,
try riding over the 'taka's on an FJ1200, and being OVERTAKEN by a smokey, ratshit looking 150cc smoker.......... Enter Quallman....

I got left behind by an FJ over there once.
I'm not saying what I was riding.

That's how much I fail, the FJ isn't anywhere near decent handling