Keep Wellington's motorcycle parking free - sign the petition!

**gsp0702** · 14th January 2011, 10:10

Well it was interesting article in this mornings Dom Post (Stuff), now I may be wrong but what I took from the article this morning that with approximately 500 free bike parking places in Wellington City and an estimated 1100 bikes comimg into the city daily there is inadquate provision of parking for motorcycles.

The councils options as inferred by them was keep the status quo of 500 spaces which will become ever more inadquate but no charge for parking or increase the number of available spaces but that costs them money, either creating the new parking or removing current metered or pay and display car spaces to make way for bikes and not unsurprisingly if that were to happen they are likely to impliment charges.

Anyway interesting article and I will watch with interest, and yes I have signed the petition and encouraged all other motorcyclists to take a look.

**riffer** · 14th January 2011, 10:37

Originally Posted by bogan

Though the later point could be outweighed by the perception that 1 in 18 motorcycle trips results in death

Where the fuck did you get that garbage from bogan? Cite your source for gawd's sake.

**bogan** · 14th January 2011, 11:01

Originally Posted by riffer

Where the fuck did you get that garbage from bogan? Cite your source for gawd's sake.

I was taking the piss out of the anti-bikers using the 18x number for whatever they feel like. Though it was obviously a piss take?

**riffer** · 14th January 2011, 11:04

Originally Posted by bogan

I was taking the piss out of the anti-bikers using the 18x number for whatever they feel like. Though it was obviously a piss take?

Don't do that dude. On the internet everyone has Aspergers.

**StoneY** · 14th January 2011, 11:09

Originally Posted by coreys

With all due respect, a petition isn't worth the paper it is written on.

If you want change you have to do more then sign a stupid piece of paper to feel good about yourselves.

Grow a pair and organise affirmative action.

The petition is not our only weapon here dude

I have already arranged with MAG's Wellington rep that should this peaceful initiative be ignored, despite the thousands of signatures, then its outright full on protest activity much like you've just suggested, and trust me we have run enough protests to know how to do it (9,500 on Parliaments lawns was no small event after all)

Give us some time to do this by consultation and public opinion support, before we call in the artillery huh?

At this point we are simply invited to discuss the options council and motorcyclists have, and they more than suggested we are going to have to start paying fee's or move into private carparks

The purpose of negotiation and intended outcomes are:

To shut this issue down, and hopefully convince TPTB to give us MORE bike parks with various area's being timelimited, or even free parking building access (unlikely)
Maybe get this ridiculous 'stay off the footpaths' shit overturned, with useless pavemnet space like in Boulcott st re-opened up to us OFFICIALLY with suitable guidelines such as in Melbourne, Amsterdam, Berlin and London...for example cities

So........ let us do the talking first.....
IF, and only IF that fails we thne deliver a massive sucker punch with our friends at MAG taking over to provide 'ACTION" as appropriate and trust me, we will be there boots and all
It is actually against BRONZ constitution to encourage disruption...does not stop us partaking in such action if others will lead it though

Summary of situation

Formal consultation is months away
Febuary 1st is a quiet discussion with the council officers

At that discussion, BRONZ, MAG and WIMA (as well as Ulysses) will present our organisational wants/needs to best represent the Motorcycling Public of Wellington as best we can

The petition is what we like to refer as a pre match warm-up, bit of a stretch, some bag work, get the cheerleader squad sorted out.....
Hope this helps everyone understand where we stand so far?

Oh yeah.......
I have a bigger pair than you mate....rest assured it no lack of balls that lead us in this direction pal

**caseye** · 14th January 2011, 13:28

Pussy, ya have not! LOL.
First we must attempt to play by the/their rules.
Then we get organised and go to town, every day, morning noon and night if needed.
This ain't happening.

**riffer** · 14th January 2011, 13:38

Originally Posted by caseye

Pussy, ya have not! LOL.
First we must attempt to play by the/their rules.
Then we get organised and go to town, every day, morning noon and night if needed.
This ain't happening.

I likes the cut of ye jib matey.

**Big Dave** · 14th January 2011, 14:21

Stoney looking stoic on stuff.co.nz
Hey man is that a GN250 youse ridin's?

**StoneY** · 14th January 2011, 14:33

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Stoney looking stoic on stuff.co.nz
Hey man is that a GN250 youse ridin's?

No idea who's GN that is but had to tell off the photographer for placing a balance foot on zomeones ZX thou and tripping the alarm. LOL

My KTM Super Duke gets placed in the garage at work (an undisclosed govt dept muwahahaha)

**Zookey** · 14th January 2011, 14:36

Originally Posted by Kendog

You must be losing the plot, last time I rode to Palmy there were designated free bike parks all over the place. Not big parking spaces like Wellington, but free marked smaller spaces pretty much everywhere a car would not fit.

Sure as hell must have Kendog,probably its the one track in and out as quick as possible ,and and the old fellows mind on watching the tin tops.

**Clockwork** · 15th January 2011, 08:18

Just a thought...

Parking in Pay and Display spaces may be illegal through by-laws but "protesting" in them may be a reasonable response under the "Bill of Rights act"

May be under
14 Freedom of expression

Everyone has the right to freedom of expression, including the freedom to seek, receive, and impart information and opinions of any kind in any form.

16 Freedom of peaceful assembly

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly.

17 Freedom of association

Everyone has the right to freedom of association.

Not too sure on this but I seem to recall some protester who was prosecuted for burning a flag getting acquitted when he claimed it was a legitimate form of protest.

Perhaps a Freedom of exression?

**Bald Eagle** · 15th January 2011, 08:35

It's not like the council is short of a $ or two with their share of parking revenue.
Stuff today

"The council retains nearly half of the $9.7m annual revenue it collects in parking fines"