Boxing Day speed camera - Porirua

[FJRider]

Can they "instant on" with a van based camera? I presume not therefore radar detectors are fully effective.

Not necessarily true ... speed cameras only point in ONE direction, at one time. To catch a motorcyclist, the beam is sent in the direction the motorcyclist is travelling ... thus unlikely to picked up on a detector ...

[marty]

not only that, they have gone to ultra low output on K band. I used to pick up cameras with my Bell from up to 200m away depending on traffic and surrounds, but now i am lucky to get 50m warning - sometimes only when i'm right on top of it, especially if there is no reflecting surfaces (ie out in the country)

[paulatron]

I know this will lead to the usual abuse and red rep etc etc etc but can I make an observation here.......speed cameras are here to stay and the Police will continue to target speed as a cause of accidents (whether it is or not is irrelevant) because it is the current flavour of the month. I bet there are not any rules now for the placement of speed camera vans anymore given the focus on this speed kills message and you can expect to see (or not see) these vans in new and different places.

Given this, if you decide to exceed the speed limit (and we all do at some time) and get pinged by a speed camera or car/bike whatever, then it is part and parcel of the risk you take for doing so. Claiming it is revenue gathering, not fair, targetting motorcyclists etc etc is just not taking responsibility for a decision that you make.

Sorry to sound like Katman here but I do find it a laugh that some people on this forum still believe it is their right to exceed the speed limit without any consequences. Not aimed at the original poster but there are othere on this site.

Hey, no abuse, what you are saying is generally true, but the point I was trying to make was they clearly say in the info pamphlet they send out with the infringement notice, that the cameras are not camouflaged or hidden, which I firmly believe this one was.

Sure I had a momentary lapse of concentration, and the desire to get home for a cold beer after a couple of hours in the saddle and a hard day watching some excellent bike racing, led me to wind the throttle on just a tad too much, but if they state they do not hide them, what the hell was it doing parked hidden in some bushes on the center of the hi-way. (right in the spot where you are accelerating after the Paremata roundabout)

On a daily basis I see people in cars texting. This activity is far more dangerous than exceeding the speed limit by a few k's, on a machine that is designed to perform and handle far in excess of the legal speed limit.
Not 2 hours ago I saw a lady in a BMW suv with 2 kids in the back driving through Kilbirnie and texting. Sure you can be fined $150.00, if you are observed in the act, but no effort is being made to curb this popular pastime, and as a motorcyclist, the fact that there are motorists driving around with their eyes glued to their cellphone while texting, scares me.

Finally, this a not a dig at you, but more of an elaboration of my first post.

Also, I saw a friend today whom I was riding with, who stopped for some food and was a bit behind me. He also was flashed and ticketed by the same camera. (5 ks over the limit, mine was 17, me bad) I told him to write in and complain too, so will let you guys know how we get on.

[scumdog]

Its more the fact it is a scam, an extortionist scam that is the problem. So just like I expect to use my email without being told "im a millionaire" in some lottery I never heard of, I expect to be able to use the road safely without some P.I.G. hassling me

Who cares?

You don't HAVE to get caught.

I'll let y'all know next time I do.

[Kickaha]

I expect to be able to use the road safely without some P.I.G. hassling me

I've managed to use the road safely without some P.I.G. hassling me so far for 30 years

It's actually not that hard to do

[gatch]

I can see why you are against cameras in the first place.. I hate them with a passion, as I don't think they actually save lives as you would be led to believe. They are only a speed deterrent if people know they are there, "oh shit, camera there, button off" etc.

But it's the same old thing.

Do crime, do time etc..

[Scuba_Steve]

I've managed to use the road safely without some P.I.G. hassling me so far for 30 years

It's actually not that hard to do

You ever been a "young adult" with a licence/car in the Manawatu? its gets bloody hard to do

[rastuscat]

They are only a speed deterrent if people know they are there, "oh shit, camera there, button off" etc.

Nope, sorry to disagree.

They are also a deterrent if they hide and snap lots of speeders. Then the targets all get a surprise ticket, and bitch about it on interweb-thingy sites. Increasing the paranoia.

Even better, they hide them, but get seen by some sharp-eyed observer. The observer tells all and sundry that they are hiding cameras, and whammo, the paranoia ratchets up again.

Paranoia and deterrent are happy partners.

Spooky thing though, as a rule, if you don't speed the camera won't go off. Anyone else ever noticed that?

Donuts.

[Coldrider]

Paranoia and deterrent are happy partners.

just like Boss Hogg to Rosco P Coltraine, dat der Duke boys are getting away again...sheeshh...

[FJRider]

Spooky thing though, as a rule, if you don't speed the camera won't go off. Anyone else ever noticed that?

Donuts.

Sort'a like a tax on the wealthy ... because we all know the rules. We speed ... get caught ... we pay a fine.

Can't afford the fine ...

and if you can ... go for it ...

[roadracingoldfart]

I came over the desert road a couple of day's ago and was suprised to see a Grey Tranny van park at the top. As I got closer, notice the double arials and the camera in the back. Road was quiet, straight stretch of road and perfect visability. Accident blackspot?

Never heard of roads closed up there huh ???
Quiet road , not much traffic and perfect visibility and they still probably got a shit load of fast drivers. All breaking the 100 k limit.

[gatch]

Nope, sorry to disagree.

They are also a deterrent if they hide and snap lots of speeders. Then the targets all get a surprise ticket, and bitch about it on interweb-thingy sites. Increasing the paranoia.

Even better, they hide them, but get seen by some sharp-eyed observer. The observer tells all and sundry that they are hiding cameras, and whammo, the paranoia ratchets up again.

Paranoia and deterrent are happy partners.

Spooky thing though, as a rule, if you don't speed the camera won't go off. Anyone else ever noticed that?

Donuts.

If they were a real deterrent, noone would get snapped would they ? An $80 odd fine is not enough of a deterrent to deter most from speeding.

If the cops came out with a statement saying "speed kills, if we see you speeding, we will kill you", that might work.

Speed cameras do not save lives.

[Coldrider]

.....Paranoia.......

Spooky thing though.....

Police culture, 60 recommendations promised to be enacted on, none have in 4 years, retirement of top brass, heat, kitchen, failure, spooky, paranoia, and yeah, the obvious you pointed out, donuts