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    Boxing Day speed camera - Porirua

    Hey there riders, was any one else heading back to Wellington on Boxing day, unlucky enough to be snapped by the speed camera in the centre of the road, hidden in the bushes, just south of the Parematta bridge?
    My understanding is that the camera vans can not be concealed, as this clearly was.
    The first I was aware of it was catching an amber flash in my rear vision mirror. This itself was dangerous as it caused me to look back to see where it came from.
    The van was tucked into the bushes on the center strip of grass, not visible from approach or the side.
    I have just faxed off a letter stating this, and will post the outcome.
    If anyone else observed this van, let me know.
    Aside from that, the boxing day races were great (again), and it was a fun ride.
    Ride safe
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    Not sure about the legality of it but the pricks are certainly hiding their vans. Returned from a trip to Napier and a mate asked if I had seen the camera in the bushes on the side of the road going through the wine valley.
    Out of nine bikes he was the only one who had seen it!

    I thought I may have been snapped by one on the way to the races on boxing day as there was one hiding behind bushes again.....Come to think of it, it would have been fully visible by traffic in the opposite direction.

    So maybe they can get away with it by being visible from one direction only traffic

    When did you receive the ticket in the mail? I must be safe as I have not received one yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corse1 View Post
    Not sure about the legality of it but the pricks are certainly hiding their vans. Returned from a trip to Napier and a mate asked if I had seen the camera in the bushes on the side of the road going through the wine valley.
    Out of nine bikes he was the only one who had seen it!

    I thought I may have been snapped by one on the way to the races on boxing day as there was one hiding behind bushes again.....Come to think of it, it would have been fully visible by traffic in the opposite direction.

    So maybe they can get away with it by being visible from one direction only traffic

    When did you receive the ticket in the mail? I must be safe as I have not received one yet
    think they made them legal after the Waikato trial,. fault memory says it was about or shortly after them abandoning the 80 percentile thing for cameras. Just more evidence that they are about $$$ not road safety.

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    Buggar and I thought the 80% was still a go. There goes another safety net!!

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    Yea all that was propaganda to "calm the fears". When they were introducing them people feared (correctly) it was for $$$ so to "calm" the fears they said
    "we will only operate in black spots"
    "black spots will be sign posted"
    "only targeting the worst offenders"
    "will not be hidden"
    "will not operate on passing lanes"
    "will not operate near speed changes"
    etc.
    As time went on people forgot these "promises" & rules got dropped to increase $$$ and here we are today
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    from 2007, but I'm sure is still relevant.

    https://admin.police.govt.nz/resourc...ide/index.html

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    ?

    I know this will lead to the usual abuse and red rep etc etc etc but can I make an observation here.......speed cameras are here to stay and the Police will continue to target speed as a cause of accidents (whether it is or not is irrelevant) because it is the current flavour of the month. I bet there are not any rules now for the placement of speed camera vans anymore given the focus on this speed kills message and you can expect to see (or not see) these vans in new and different places.

    Given this, if you decide to exceed the speed limit (and we all do at some time) and get pinged by a speed camera or car/bike whatever, then it is part and parcel of the risk you take for doing so. Claiming it is revenue gathering, not fair, targetting motorcyclists etc etc is just not taking responsibility for a decision that you make.

    Sorry to sound like Katman here but I do find it a laugh that some people on this forum still believe it is their right to exceed the speed limit without any consequences. Not aimed at the original poster but there are othere on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hailwood View Post
    Sorry to sound like Katman here but I do find it a laugh that some people on this forum still believe it is their right to exceed the speed limit without any consequences. Not aimed at the original poster but there are othere on this site.
    Its more the fact it is a scam, an extortionist scam that is the problem. So just like I expect to use my email without being told "im a millionaire" in some lottery I never heard of, I expect to be able to use the road safely without some P.I.G. hassling me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Its more the fact it is a scam, an extortionist scam that is the problem. So just like I expect to use my email without being told "im a millionaire" in some lottery I never heard of, I expect to be able to use the road safely without some P.I.G. hassling me
    A scam how? The law has set speed limits for the operation of a motor vehicle and we all make a concscious decision to abide by them or not knowing the consequences if we are caught breaking the speed limit. It seems your issue should be with the law makers rather than the Police who are there to uphold the law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hailwood View Post
    A scam how? The law has set speed limits for the operation of a motor vehicle and we all make a concscious decision to abide by them or not knowing the consequences if we are caught breaking the speed limit. It seems your issue should be with the law makers rather than the Police who are there to uphold the law?
    the laws the scam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hailwood View Post
    A scam how? The law has set speed limits for the operation of a motor vehicle and we all make a concscious decision to abide by them or not knowing the consequences if we are caught breaking the speed limit. It seems your issue should be with the law makers rather than the Police who are there to uphold the law?
    My issues with the whole legal system incl. the Govt, but that's a whole other story.
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    Hailwood is correct. The speed limit is the speed limit and you take the risk and responsibility (for yourself and worse others whether they want your risk or not) for going above it.

    I suspect the cameras have moved from black spot areas (due to possibly an abundance of them now) to revenue gathering areas.

    Wherever I've seen a section of road with a few crosses on it marking deaths of road users - I've never seen a speed camera just before that location. Speed cameras seem to be parked where:
    a) there is a large volume of traffic (quantity = more tickets)
    b) the camera can be obscured so as to catch the motorist
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    So how much was the ticket for?

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    I commute from Whitby to Welly and have seen that spot used on a number of occasions. I came over the desert road a couple of day's ago and was suprised to see a Grey Tranny van park at the top. As I got closer, notice the double arials and the camera in the back. Road was quiet, straight stretch of road and perfect visability. Accident blackspot?
    I'm only wearing black until they develop something darker




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    Can they "instant on" with a van based camera? I presume not therefore radar detectors are fully effective.
    Quote Originally Posted by FlangMaster
    I had a strange dream myself. You know that game some folk play on the streets where they toss coins at the wall and what not? In my dream they were tossing my semi hardened stool at the wall. I shit you not.

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