Speed cameras don't save lives

[Grantman_]

No its just another whining argument from people that get tickets for speeding.
Been done to death on god knows how many threads.

Nothing new.

unlike a whining argument this story caries legitimacy. New or not doesn't matter.

[oldrider]

IMHO "inappropriate" crossing of the centre line and generally failing to occupy your own legal road space is the biggest killer on NZ roads.

Travelling beyond a speed where you can stop safely is probably next but speed in it's self being labelled as the supreme killer on our roads is just bullshit.

The number of speeding infringements issued to so many drivers should tell them that the majority of drivers are telling them it's just bullshit too!

Now that's a statistic that they could use if they really wanted some facts to work on!

[Spearfish]

IMHO "inappropriate" crossing of the centre line and generally failing to occupy your own legal road space is the biggest killer on NZ roads.

Travelling beyond a speed where you can stop safely is probably next

I think those get called black spots removing the driver from being at fault.

[BoristheBiter]

unlike a whining argument this story caries legitimacy. New or not doesn't matter.

Its still a whining argument.
don't speed no ticket, speed get ticket. No matter how anyone spins it thats what it comes down to.

We all know the government line on these things, regardless of who is in power, but still everyone beats the tired old drum crying about getting a ticket and at the end of the day that is all they care about and still there are people on here who are so mind numbingly stupid that they think the police make the laws, and you just can't argue with that level of stupidity.

[Swoop]

speed get ticket. No matter how anyone spins it thats what it comes down to.

Strange. That theory doesn't quite work.
Time & place eh?

[fuknKIWI]

Speed cameras have never--
caught a vehicle on the wrong side of the road
Caught someone with a warrant to arrest
A stolen vehicle
A drunk or drugged driver
on and on and on

But at least the few yards either side of the camera is relatively safe?

Never is a loaded word be wrong just once & you're wrong in triplicate...
WRONG WRONG WRONG...
I got caught on camera overtaking a Camaro ka-flash...

[Scuba_Steve]

I only just watched da vid, and they're right they be saying what I've been saying all along, fact is fact.
But god people are right, that P.I.G. was fucking useless.

[Latte]

I only just watched da vid, and they're right they be saying what I've been saying all along, fact is fact.
But god people are right, that P.I.G. was fucking useless.

What's P.I.G. ? I see you use it a lot (I know what you are inferring, but what does the acronym stand for).

[Scuba_Steve]

What's P.I.G. ? I see you use it a lot (I know what you are inferring, but what does the acronym stand for).

Police Inforcment Guy

And yes I know how to spell

[Coldrider]

change it to 'Investigation' and no one will look twice.

[swbarnett]

Its still a whining argument.
don't speed no ticket, speed get ticket. No matter how anyone spins it thats what it comes down to.

So what you're saying is that a black man in 1960s America is to blame for the beating they would get if they sat in the white section of the bus?

Why should I be penalised because my assessment of a safe speed disagrees with a limit set by bureaucrats sitting in their ivory towers with no knowledge whatsoever of the circumstances under which my safe speed was chosen?

Just because something is law does not make it right.

What this thread comes down to is that the government, supported by the police, claim that speed cameras save lives. We say otherwise and now we are supported by someone with a serious degree of credibility. I for one am very glad that the OP put this information forward.

[Scuba_Steve]

change it to 'Investigation' and no one will look twice.

yea but then that would imply they investigate.

[Coldrider]

yea but then that would imply they investigate.

er sorry, that could be a little confusing.

[Brian d marge]

Its still a whining argument.
don't speed no ticket, speed get ticket. No matter how anyone spins it thats what it comes down to.

We all know the government line on these things, regardless of who is in power, but still everyone beats the tired old drum crying about getting a ticket and at the end of the day that is all they care about and still there are people on here who are so mind numbingly stupid that they think the police make the laws, and you just can't argue with that level of stupidity.

yes there are a few mind numbingly stupid drivers , most aren't . most actually travel at a speed appropriate for the conditions

that could be 120 , or 20

The laws in NZ are outdated , and draconian , reason , Money it IS a good source of revenue

The argument of you break the law you pay is fine IF the laws were appropriate , and well reasoned

Nz motoring laws aren't

If this 80km/hr law is passed , ( this argument has surfaced once or twice ) would you Honestly sit at 80k though those long stretches of roads??? In all honestly , your speed would creep up until your perceived level of safety was reached.

( you can see this in action if you drive for a long time on a motorway then turn off and drive through town ,,, its VERY difficult to stay at 50 , you must watch the speedo )



Stephen

[BoristheBiter]

So what you're saying is that a black man in 1960s America is to blame for the beating they would get if they sat in the white section of the bus?

Why should I be penalised because my assessment of a safe speed disagrees with a limit set by bureaucrats sitting in their ivory towers with no knowledge whatsoever of the circumstances under which my safe speed was chosen?

Just because something is law does not make it right.

What this thread comes down to is that the government, supported by the police, claim that speed cameras save lives. We say otherwise and now we are supported by someone with a serious degree of credibility. I for one am very glad that the OP put this information forward.

yes there are a few mind numbingly stupid drivers , most aren't . most actually travel at a speed appropriate for the conditions

that could be 120 , or 20

The laws in NZ are outdated , and draconian , reason , Money it IS a good source of revenue

The argument of you break the law you pay is fine IF the laws were appropriate , and well reasoned

Nz motoring laws aren't

If this 80km/hr law is passed , ( this argument has surfaced once or twice ) would you Honestly sit at 80k though those long stretches of roads??? In all honestly , your speed would creep up until your perceived level of safety was reached.

( you can see this in action if you drive for a long time on a motorway then turn off and drive through town ,,, its VERY difficult to stay at 50 , you must watch the speedo )



Stephen

Like i said, and you just can't argue with that level of stupidity.