Speed cameras don't save lives

[Latte]

Wana race?

..... I've been caught, hook, line, and sinker (I know) ......


You think racing shows how good a rider/driver you are?

[MSTRS:Me]

And that statement is why it will never work.
Society is too full of "fuck you i will do what i want" people, and too many of these people can't ride/drive for shit and they are on the road with us.

So stop issuing fines, and take away their licences instead...
It must be obvious, even to the most moronic of cops etc, that fines don't work. The public 'got that' long ago, and some of them (ocean1 et al) developed their fuck-you attitude because of it.
And a fuck-you attitude is no guide to driving/riding skill either. The 2 are mutually exclusive.

[BoristheBiter]

So stop issuing fines, and take away their licences instead...
It must be obvious, even to the most moronic of cops etc, that fines don't work. The public 'got that' long ago, and some of them (ocean1 et al) developed their fuck-you attitude because of it.
And a fuck-you attitude is no guide to driving/riding skill either. The 2 are mutually exclusive.

No argument here

[Swoop]

the SUV had never been off road

How can it? The name implies that it is for "the suburbs", not for driving on anything resembling grass or *gasp* mud!

[Ocean1]

..... I've been caught, hook, line, and sinker (I know) ......

And well out of your depth.

So stop issuing fines, and take away their licences instead...
It must be obvious, even to the most moronic of cops etc, that fines don't work. The public 'got that' long ago, and some of them (ocean1 et al) developed their fuck-you attitude because of it.
And a fuck-you attitude is no guide to driving/riding skill either. The 2 are mutually exclusive.

Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I don't in fact have a "fuck you" attitude.

It's a "fuck them" attitude. Where "Them" = the authorities who instigated the current traffic control legislation using justification based on data known to be fallacious. Collected and presented, in fact with that very function in mind.

“Them”. The ones that impose on me costs in terms of time and money for reasons having nothing to do with my behaviour. I already pay many times the cost of any likely imposition on any one of the vast number of government agencies supposed to deal with my supposed transgressions, and every year they invent new ways to blame me for fabricated problems and to charge me for them.

When they stop lying to me and stealing from me I may remember to ask myself if I should respect them.

In the meantime, Fuck’em.

[MSTRS:Me]

Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I don't in fact have a "fuck you" attitude.

It's a "fuck them" attitude. Where "Them" = the authorities who instigated the current traffic control legislation using justification based on data known to be fallacious. Collected and presented, in fact with that very function in mind.

“Them”. The ones that impose on me costs in terms of time and money for reasons having nothing to do with my behaviour. I already pay many times the cost of any likely imposition on any one of the vast number of government agencies supposed to deal with my supposed transgressions, and every year they invent new ways to blame me for fabricated problems and to charge me for them.

When they stop lying to me and stealing from me I may remember to ask myself if I should respect them.

In the meantime, Fuck’em.

nah - fuck it

[p.dath]

So stop issuing fines, and take away their licences instead...

I've given this consideration many times. I keep reflecting on the high number of dis-qualified drivers, and I suspect taking more licences away from people would result in more people driving without a licence.

It's the "she'll be right" attitude we pride ourselves on.

Taking peoples cars away is more likely to have an effect ... but it is a harsh punishment.

[rwh]

So stop issuing fines, and take away their licences instead...
It must be obvious, even to the most moronic of cops etc, that fines don't work. The public 'got that' long ago, and some of them (ocean1 et al) developed their fuck-you attitude because of it.
And a fuck-you attitude is no guide to driving/riding skill either. The 2 are mutually exclusive.

Fines and licence removal are both punishments, not educational.

In both cases, they act as a deterrent by getting people to slow down for fear of being caught, rather than because it's the right thing to do.

I like the suggestion of making the SUV driver stand on the traffic island for 30 minutes, with or without a sign. Or walk over the Rimutakas, or SH16 or wherever the problems are.

Richard

[Spearfish]

Never is a loaded word be wrong just once & you're wrong in triplicate...
WRONG WRONG WRONG...
I got caught on camera overtaking a Camaro ka-flash...

So if I'm wrong in triplicate, it caught you on the wrong side of the road, waiting to be arrested and stealing?

You have been busy.

[Brian d marge]

Like i said, and you just can't argue with that level of stupidity.

So
I'm stupid for questioning the status quo

and you are not for following it

and everything is ok with the current system

Is that what you are saying ???


Thats why NZ is in such a mess, from people like you , well done pat your self on the back and bask in the satisfaction of a job well done

Stephen

[fuknKIWI]

One of Toowoomba's finest


He did 10 months for this...

[BoristheBiter]

So
I'm stupid for questioning the status quo

and you are not for following it

and everything is ok with the current system

Is that what you are saying ???


Thats why NZ is in such a mess, from people like you , well done pat your self on the back and bask in the satisfaction of a job well done

Stephen

Is that why you don't live here then?

There are many laws in NZ that are outdated they are still the laws of the land whether you think so or not.

I never said that the current system is without flaws but it is what we have at the moment so you have to abide by and crying because you got a ticket just shows how stupid you are. You might think you are a good driver/rider others might think you are the worst they have seen. what about the car/bike you are driving?

Did you understand that or do you want me draw some pretty pictures to help explain??

[Brian d marge]

Is that why you don't live here then?

There are many laws in NZ that are outdated they are still the laws of the land whether you think so or not.

I never said that the current system is without flaws but it is what we have at the moment so you have to abide by and crying because you got a ticket just shows how stupid you are. You might think you are a good driver/rider others might think you are the worst they have seen. what about the car/bike you are driving?

Did you understand that or do you want me draw some pretty pictures to help explain??

To answer you first question
Yes that is exactly why I dont live in NZ , The grass IS greener on the on the side ( but living over seas , still doesnt stop me from trying to stop the rot caused buy the less educated and the never had it so goods

and two speeding tickets in probably 12 maybe 13 years , I have NEVER complained about getting a speeding ticket ( EVER IN ANY OF MY POSTS )

I however , think that the whole structure of NZ public services are set up in a way to make money at the expense of the user ,

while this maybe fine for non important utilities such as transportation . It most certainly in not when it comes to health and education

You paying your ACC?? happy about the increase , are we ?? if it goes up again , will you bail or pay ???

Your " do the crime do the time " is far too simplistic while copied from an American tv show fails to address the point which was originally put up , that speed cameras are ineffective as a deterrent


And yes I would love to see you finger paintings bet you mother is proud how far you have progressed.


Stephen

[rastuscat]

So stop issuing fines, and take away their licences instead...
It must be obvious, even to the most moronic of cops etc, that fines don't work.

Harumph.

The Popos don't write the law. We don't have the ability to remove fines, and we can't just randomly take licences.

Most of us believe you are right, but it's not within our power to change it. The Gubbermint is the only body who can change that legislation.

Harumph.

[MSTRS:Me]

So - if the most moronic cops know that fines don't work, they must also realise that any type of draconian punishment as deterrent doesn't work. 'You lot' must have some better ideas. Where are they?