Speed cameras don't save lives

[Scuba_Steve]

Well, far out, what can I say?

Nothing, - except I'm alarmed at the prospect of sharing the road with somebody who has a mind-set like that...sheeesh...

We're NOT expected to be allowed to judge anybody re their driving - but we're expected to pick the 'bad drivers' (tm) and deal to them regardless???

You should know what I mean, we pay judges & juries to do the judging job, your job is to put them before said people & proof they're guilt. Picking out bad drivers is not hard it doesn't require ESP, but it does require a little intelligence, but then maybee this is where da police have trouble??? From what I've seen of Manawatu cops this could well be da case if the rest of NZ'ds cops are the same.

[swbarnett]

I think the biggest problem i have with all of it is i don't agree with the current laws, fines or quality of or roads.
I vote in who i think will make a difference and have realized in 40 years no on will.

Couldn't agree more. No politician can change things. The change has to come from the people.

I now just ride where i will have fun and save those speeds for the track.
I haven't given in, I just know that sitting here crying about a ticket is not going to make it go away.

Seems we have more in common than I previously thought.

I don't winge if I get a ticket. I know the current laws and if I break them it's my choice. I don't blame the cop for enforcing them. That's their choice and they're within their rights to do so.

If the currnet laws were as bad as they're ever going to get I wouldn't be as worried. What worries me is where things are going in the not too distant future

The sun is out i'm off for a ride.

Sounds like a damn good idea. I wish I could. Still waiting on a gasket for my clutch.

[scumdog]

Sounds like a damn good idea. I wish I could. Still waiting on a gasket for my clutch.

normajeane and I were lucky - our bikes go!

So off to the Catlins we went, wanted to see how the T-Sport went with a new front tyre, good ride but man, was it blowing or what!

Met a movie crew at the Cafe @ Owaka, a couple of the rode (Harleys of course!) so we had a yarn with them while having our long black & some carrot cake and then buggered off home again, not a ticket garnered, no bins, just a nice ride.

About to soak outside in our 'bush-bath' and quaf a nice wine...

So where were we???

[BoristheBiter]

Sounds like a damn good idea. I wish I could. Still waiting on a gasket for my clutch.

Had a fantastic ride, only a couple of What gets me is i'm still met with people that want to be on my side of the road in corners, the worst being the bike that was overtaking and made me have to change my line. lucky for me i had seen him before i had turned in.

I was so mad. 2sec earlier or if i was going a little quicker it might have been a different story.

O well live to ride another day.

[rwh]

Just a comment re breaking laws that we think should be different.

Recently, copyright law was changed so you could copy your CDs onto your mp3 player or whatever. This change did not apply to copying DVDs onto a portable video player - ie it applied to audio, but not video.

The reason for this was that 'people don't do that much'.

In other words, it seems to be accepted practice to change laws if they are mostly being broken - ie they aren't accepted by the people.

So there's an argument that perhaps people should defend their tickets in cases where 'everybody does it', and maybe the laws will be changed. Probably need a good lawyer to argue that though.

Richard

[scumdog]

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So there's an argument that perhaps people should defend their tickets in cases where 'everybody does it', and maybe the laws will be changed.

Richard

And the same with wife-beating and...

[yachtie10]

And the same with wife-beating and...

Are you suggesting wife beating is common? or is it just with trolls

[swbarnett]

And the same with wife-beating and...

I am pretty sure that this does not come under the heading of "everybody does it" (I could be wrong, hope not).

It is, however, against the "live your own life as long as it doesn't get in the way of others living theirs" principle, driving fast (above the speed limit) while driving to the conditions is not.