Speed cameras don't save lives

[Gremlin]

No that one (Hyundai/ or VW) is not certified for speed camera/ revenue (haha) work. Its a different asset with a different purpose

Go awn, give the whole truth. Found this link in a previous thread: http://www.3news.co.nz/New-crime-fig...8/Default.aspx Those vans are capable of checking a lot of vehicle plates, and if the owners/cars are flagged, there are units with the van to stop the car.

ratuscat... its an interesting one (changing everything but yourself etc). I've had my share of demerits, misplaced the license once... Has it changed me? To a degree, yes.. but really, its the fear of getting nailed again, that stops me. *touch wood* haven't had anything in the 3 or so years since. Around town, yes, much more careful, especially during the day, school times etc. Night around town, might speed a little as there is simply nothing around. Most of the time its speed limit +10.

Out in the country, the only thing stopping me from travelling at a higher cruising speed are the highway patrol. Travel the backroads (as in, the ones with very little traffic), speed goes up a bit.

Guess I'm the typical kiwi that thinks I'm reasonably good...

[Voltaire]

Road Safety Thru the Ages:

whats with this driving on the left only...?

Whats with Stop signs and Give way signs...?

Traffic lights they are worse than stop and give way signs...will it never end...?

Radar.... now they are using military weapons to catch us...

Helicopter patrols ( NSW 1980s') strewth its like being in 'Nam on the Hume Hwy these days.

Hidden speed cameras....thats not fair...its just revenue gathering....

Timing you between tool booths...( France 1990's) and instant fine...

the future:

GPS trackers that automatically debit your account when you speed...2010's...?

Fines if your vehicle rego is on on hold and your speedo does not reflect this.....

Remote speed contol of vehicles.



When ever you gain something, you loose something.

[Azzman]

I agree for the most part speed cameras don't save live's. I have read half of this thread but not all so excuse me if this has been said before.
Speed cameras don't cost money...they make huge amounts of it, so what's the point in taking them away?
Use the money for roads or driver education, that would be my first choice, but hey use it to reduce my rates bill if you like because that will be a saving for me that's for sure!
Laws and speed cameras are here to stay so instead of whingeing why not just adjust...let someone else pay.
And FFS stop fucking hassling people who drive 4wd without taking them off road...its their choice if that makes them happy so be it, you're riding a motorcycle or driving a V8 for your own reasons and they might not be because you want to save the planet. And no I don't drive a 4wd! I ride an off road motorcycle and its not for hearding cows, but it doesn't make it wrong. People drive vehicles for there own reasons, just because it has 4wd doesnt mean u have to drive off-road. Shit my car has a cigarette lighter...I don't smoke!

[MSTRS:Me]

Wouldn't you consider being dazzled in heavy rain by an oncoming poorly aligned headlight a safety issue?

That would...but a headlight can be pointing down and fail.

And FFS stop fucking hassling people who drive 4wd without taking them off road...

We would - if they actually learned how to drive...

[Scuba_Steve]

I agree for the most part speed cameras don't save live's. I have read half of this thread but not all so excuse me if this has been said before.
Speed cameras don't cost money...they make huge amounts of it, so what's the point in taking them away?
Use the money for roads or driver education, that would be my first choice, but hey use it to reduce my rates bill if you like because that will be a saving for me that's for sure!
Laws and speed cameras are here to stay so instead of whingeing why not just adjust...let someone else pay.
And FFS stop fucking hassling people who drive 4wd without taking them off road...its their choice if that makes them happy so be it, you're riding a motorcycle or driving a V8 for your own reasons and they might not be because you want to save the planet. And no I don't drive a 4wd! I ride an off road motorcycle and its not for hearding cows, but it doesn't make it wrong. People drive vehicles for there own reasons, just because it has 4wd doesnt mean u have to drive off-road. Shit my car has a cigarette lighter...I don't smoke!

The point of removing the cams is they are a scam & make the roads more dangerous than they need to be also the Govt is never gonna give up they're cash cow easily AA have been trying to get them to put the money back into the roads since da day they were introduced 10yrs later any of that money going to roading?

As for the 4WD is not so much the vehicle itself its more the attitude that comes with alot of them "I'm in my safe cage, so I don't need to know how to drive, bigger vehicles get right of way, right?" Go watch some school drop-offs/pick-ups they can be a bloody dangerous place. However I have found they are not the worst 'type' of vehicle on the road seems that trophy is taken out by people movers.

[Ocean1]

Those vans are capable of checking a lot of vehicle plates, and if the owners/cars are flagged, there are units with the van to stop the car.
:

"innocent citizens have nothing to fear"

I must be guilty of somat...

[BoristheBiter]

The point of removing the cams is they are a scam & make the roads more dangerous than they need to be also the Govt is never gonna give up they're cash cow easily AA have been trying to get them to put the money back into the roads since da day they were introduced 10yrs later any of that money going to roading?

As for the 4WD is not so much the vehicle itself its more the attitude that comes with alot of them "I'm in my safe cage, so I don't need to know how to drive, bigger vehicles get right of way, right?" Go watch some school drop-offs/pick-ups they can be a bloody dangerous place. However I have found they are not the worst 'type' of vehicle on the road seems that trophy is taken out by people movers.

The only way to get rid of the cameras is to make them cost money. so no tickets, no money, Now how do you do that?

As for 4x4 and people movers, i agree that they show some of the worst driving habits around. They must subscribe to the scuba_steve driving method of the law is an arse i will drive how i like because i am the greatest.

[Scuba_Steve]

The only way to get rid of the cameras is to make them cost money. so no tickets, no money, Now how do you do that?

As for 4x4 and people movers, i agree that they show some of the worst driving habits around. They must subscribe to the scuba_steve driving method of the law is an arse i will drive how i like because i am the greatest.

you are soo far off the track its just not funny anymore. You seem brainwashed to hell, I have a problem with scams yes, I think everybody should have a problem with scams. If cams became unprofitable they would just change the scam. & it doesn't change the fact they are dangerous.

But since you want to follow the law regardless of how stupid, unsafe or impractical I'll help you out a bit just so you don't get caught out.
Never cross the road on a diagonal, you must always cross at right angles to the pavement.
If the red man is showing at a crossing regardless of if there are vehicles or not, you must not cross ever.
(Not sure if this is still law but better to be safe than sorry right) Always carry 5 pounds on you at all time if on the street it is(/was?) a jail-able offence not to.
(again not sure if still law but again better safe than sorry right) Always have a bucket of water at the top of every flight of stairs.
& since you listen to the "speed" propaganda so closely, do you remember "1 in 4 dads is a child abuser" are you a dad? your 1 in 4...

[BoristheBiter]

you are soo far off the track its just not funny anymore. You seem brainwashed to hell, I have a problem with scams yes, I think everybody should have a problem with scams. If cams became unprofitable they would just change the scam. & it doesn't change the fact they are dangerous.
Only in you twisted fucked up mind.


But since you want to follow the law regardless of how stupid, unsafe or impractical I'll help you out a bit just so you don't get caught out.
Never cross the road on a diagonal, you must always cross at right angles to the pavement.
If the red man is showing at a crossing regardless of if there are vehicles or not, you must not cross ever.
(Not sure if this is still law but better to be safe than sorry right) Always carry 5 pounds on you at all time if on the street it is(/was?) a jail-able offence not to.
(again not sure if still law but again better safe than sorry right) Always have a bucket of water at the top of every flight of stairs.
& since you listen to the "speed" propaganda so closely, do you remember "1 in 4 dads is a child abuser" are you a dad? your 1 in 4...

I never said i follow the law, find a post where i said i do.
You are the one that is so far off the mark and you always will as you have a attitude of fuck everyone else i will do what i want. You wonder why the driving in NZ is as bad as it is take a good long look in the mirror and you will see the answer.

[Scuba_Steve]

I never said i follow the law, find a post where i said i do.
You are the one that is so far off the mark and you always will as you have a attitude of fuck everyone else i will do what i want. You wonder why the driving in NZ is as bad as it is take a good long look in the mirror and you will see the answer.

& where da fuck do u get that from?, I have said I will take some risks involving ONLY ME, I have NEVER said "fuck everyone else" or "I don't consider any other road user". You have fabricated that in your own mind

[BoristheBiter]

& where da fuck do u get that from?, I have said I will take some risks involving ONLY ME, I have NEVER said "fuck everyone else" or "I don't consider any other road user". You have fabricated that in your own mind

Because you think the law is wrong you will break it? yes or no?

[Scuba_Steve]

Because you think the law is wrong you will break it? yes or no?

Speed, yes I drive/ride at a safe speed not a legal one, crossing the road yes I will cross at a diagonal & on occasions will cross when the red man says not to. If they are still in law I do not have a bucket of water @ the top of my stairs nor do I carry 5 pounds on me at all times with plastic I usually don't have any cash on me at all most times. But nowhere, nohow, noway does that mean I don't consider other road users or have a "fuck you" attitude to them.

[BoristheBiter]

Speed, yes I drive/ride at a safe speed not a legal one, crossing the road yes I will cross at a diagonal & on occasions will cross when the red man says not to. If they are still in law I do not have a bucket of water @ the top of my stairs nor do I carry 5 pounds on me at all times with plastic I usually don't have any cash on me at all most times. But nowhere, nohow, noway does that mean I don't consider other road users or have a "fuck you" attitude to them.

But your perception of a safe speed will differ from everyone else's.
The laws protects us (suppose to) from the people who's skill is well below their own idea of how good they think they are.

A cop driving past doesn't know if you are Rossie or johnny dipply. they see someone over the limit and ticket them accordingly.

And 5 pounds of what??

[Scuba_Steve]

But your perception of a safe speed will differ from everyone else's.
The laws protects us (suppose to) from the people who's skill is well below their own idea of how good they think they are.

A cop driving past doesn't know if you are Rossie or johnny dipply. they see someone over the limit and ticket them accordingly.

And 5 pounds of what??

a "johnny dipply" shouldn't be on the road in the 1st place & is a failure of our licensing system, a signed speed does not make anything or anyone safe. Someone travelling the speed limit or under is way more dangerous than someone travelling at a safe speed.

And its 5 pounds of cash,

[Mully Clown]

The Speed Camera Lottery - The Fun Theory