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**Katman** · 25th January 2011, 16:18

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

That's not an argument - that's a statement ....

Tell that to Noel - he's the one who thought it was an argument.

**R-Soul** · 25th January 2011, 16:18

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

So that makes it ok then?

No it makes it a lot less likely.

**BoristheBiter** · 25th January 2011, 16:21

Originally Posted by The Stranger

I'd kill you. Pretty simple really, an eye for an eye.
I have a great respect for the life of others. If you don't then I see no reason why I should respect your life.

None of that is contradictory to anything I said so what's your point?

Sounds to me like you are on a crusade to save the 1 innocent that dies a year in NZ from maurading morotcyclists? Shit, good luck there. More innocent people die each year in NZ from law enforcement, perhaps you could spend some time teaching cops to pull U turns properly?

Hang on. You were talking about you don't care if you die as you have everything sorted, now that argument has been turned around you don't like it.

"So to be sure I'm not about to consider the impact my death has on others, nor limit my actions based on this." Your words not mine.

If my crusade helps one person even think about the consequence of there actions then what is wrong with that?

The eye for an eye thing, thats what i want but we won't see that in this PC world. Its the consequence thing again see where I'm going with this?

**Mad-V2** · 25th January 2011, 16:48

Originally Posted by Katman

To what degree do you believe you have the right to impose risk on others?

No right what so ever, and yet people from all walks of life (police included) feel they can risk my life by speeding through my work sites. Whats your point? All I'm saying is, You WILL die! No escape! You probably have more chance of being hit by a bus than a speeding motorcyclist. Get a Grip!

**Katman** · 25th January 2011, 18:25

Originally Posted by Mad-V2

No right what so ever, and yet people from all walks of life (police included) feel they can risk my life by speeding through my work sites. Whats your point? All I'm saying is, You WILL die! No escape! You probably have more chance of being hit by a bus than a speeding motorcyclist. Get a Grip!

So people should be able to do whatever speed they like - just not through your work sites?

**Mad-V2** · 25th January 2011, 19:32

Originally Posted by Katman

So people should be able to do whatever speed they like - just not through your work sites?

Correct, or any roadwork site for that matter, as there are people working ON the road, dipshit. I don't speed excessively in town, I do it where there are the least hazards as possible, as I don't want to die young or kill anyone. I think a speeding motorcyclist is the most aware and alert person using the road. where as people cruising down the motorway in their automatic with the heater on and the stereo full noise, talking on their phone while eating a burger are quite dangerous. But thats just the opinion of a reckless speeder who spares no thought for any other person on the planet. Hopefully I don't see you on the road somewhere coz I may be speeding, and apparently there's a good chance I will kill you coz I'm dangerous.

**madbikeboy** · 25th January 2011, 19:42

HOLY SHIT, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE?!?!?!

12 pages of shite, haven't you fuckers got a life?

Be nice to each other. Ride with care. Know when to speed. Don't fuck anyone else up if you fuck up. Don't ride when messed up, fucked up, or tired. Ride within your limits. Get good training. Ride ATGATT. Lock up your daughters from guys like Craver. And your sons. Hug the people you care about. Have a will. Wash your hands after using the bathroom.

**BoristheBiter** · 25th January 2011, 19:45

Originally Posted by madbikeboy

HOLY SHIT, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE?!?!?!

12 pages of shite, haven't you fuckers got a life?

Be nice to each other. Ride with care. Know when to speed. Don't fuck anyone else up if you fuck up. Don't ride when messed up, fucked up, or tired. Ride within your limits. Get good training. Ride ATGATT. Lock up your daughters from guys like Craver. And your sons. Hug the people you care about. Have a will. Wash your hands after using the bathroom.

Why didn't you just say that at the start, i might have got some work done.

**Katman** · 25th January 2011, 19:52

Originally Posted by Mad-V2

Correct, or any roadwork site for that matter, as there are people working ON the road, dipshit.

What's the difference between them and anyone else on the road?

**Berries** · 25th January 2011, 19:52

Originally Posted by Mad-V2

No right what so ever, and yet people from all walks of life (police included) feel they can risk my life by speeding through my work sites.

And how often do you see a site that complies with COPTTM ? It is no wonder people 'speed' through work sites when they are so often poorly set out. Sorry, off topic, but it pisses me off.

**Mad-V2** · 25th January 2011, 19:53

Usually I have a life. Unfortunately for you people......I had the day off

In any work site there will be a number of hazards to look for especially on a bike. People, gravel, stationary vehicles, cones, signs and potholes.
Common sense would tell me to slow down and be cautious. (Drive to the conditions)
On the open road, vehicles should be going with the flow of traffic at 100kph.
So long as you can see clearly ahead of you, there is light or no traffic, your not in town or on the motorway,
you have plenty of experience and your not under the influence of any substances, you should be fine to travel at any speed within your limits.

**Katman** · 25th January 2011, 20:14

Originally Posted by Mad-V2

On the open road, vehicles should be going with the flow of traffic at 100kph.
So long as you can see clearly ahead of you, there is light or no traffic, your not in town or on the motorway,
you have plenty of experience and your not under the influence of any substances, you should be fine to travel at any speed within your limits.

Do you think the person waiting at the side road 300 metres down the road recognises the fact that the motorcycle is doing 250 kph instead of the 100 kph that they are relying on that would give them time to pull out?

**Mad-V2** · 25th January 2011, 20:18

Originally Posted by Katman

Do you think the person waiting at the side road 300 metres down the road recognises the fact that the motorcycle is doing 250 kph instead of the 100 kph that they are relying on to give them time to pull out?

No, and thats why you should always look to see if they have seen you.
And if your not sure, slow down and make sure.
Isn't all this shit in the road code? we also have signs to show sideroads ahead so you should be taking care anyway.