Who has been involved in an accident?

[Spearfish]

I this one of those jinx it moments by voting never crashed?

[gatch]

Had contact with cars on 3 occasions. The time I failed to give way was my own stupid fault. There was one time a driver turned without indicating or giving way to me, another time a car passing a truck on the outside of a blind turn and was in my lane..

Otherwise it has been gravel that has been my nemesis.

And once on cold tires at manfield, I took a slide on my head.

[onearmedbandit]

Contrary to my earlier post (which was just a pisstake), all my accidents I've been responsible for. Buck stops with me.

Oh and in my humble opinion, bikes are no more dangerous than cars. Like the shooters amongst us say, guns don't kill people, people kill people. The big difference between cars and bikes is one you're much more vulnerable on.

[wild rose]

1. Who has crashed due own rider error? Also including speeding and not anticipating unforeseen road hazards.

2. Who has crashed at the fault of another road user?

3. Who hasn't had an accident?

If you are one of those types that has had heaps of offs, then vote for the option that describes the majority of your accidents.

Let's be honest and see how the stats stack up.

1. yes, lack of experience, front braking on a muddy road (not too high speed though)
2. yes, being taken of the road by an idiot in a van driving out of a driveway and not looking left or right. And ran away.
3. dont know a biker without one

[The Everlasting]

Yeah,voted number one,car in front slowed really fast,I didn't stop fast enough.

[imdying]

Trouble is Malcolm, sitting back and casually admitting among ourselves that over 3/4 of our accidents are our fault but bemoaning the fact that the powers that be are coming down hard on us is making us look pretty fucking stupid.

So, what does it matter? What's the worst they can do? Ban motorcycles? Big deal, we'll just find something else fun to do

[onearmedbandit]

But hey, at least it should put paid to the age old "it's always the fucking cagers fault" tripe.

I'm not going to say that 'cage drivers' are not completely blame free, however responsibility is a different thing. I'd rather be responsible for myself, avoiding those car drivers (and other road users) that if I hadn't be paying attention to would have taken me out.

[James Deuce]

This was my latest one.

[Katman]

I'm not going to say that 'cage drivers' are not completely blame free, however responsibility is a different thing. I'd rather be responsible for myself, avoiding those car drivers (and other road users) that if I hadn't be paying attention to would have taken me out.

I agree, but it's the reciting of that age old mantra that has led motorcyclists to believe that it's always someone else's fault.

Thankfully the poll appears to be showing a realisation to the contrary.

[MarkH]

I don't think I'll bother responding to the poll - too hard to cover my case.

I haven't had an accident in my current life, but over 20 years ago when I was a younger and less risk adverse individual I had some minor mishaps (I've never spent any time in hospital or required medical treatment of any sort).

1. Car drivers fault - illegal lane change when I was metres away and closing, binned while avoiding hitting the car.

2. Act of god/road conditions - low speed off due to oil on a wet road.

3. My fault - lack of paying attention, foolishness of youth, 100% my fault.

Between these I've had minor grazing and a broken clutch lever. Since these I've had over 2 decades to mature and learn.

[Eyegasm]

It's been said that the ACC levy could well come down if we proof a reversal of our stats.

I doubt the levy will ever decrease. Maybe if we pick our socks up and stop crashing it wont increase.

It doesn't matter how expensive the tyres on a bike are, or if it has fancy ABS. The fact remains that the basic laws of physics dictate that a bike is less stable than a car. No matter how good the bike is, they are still more dangerous than a cage. Nothing will ever change that.

Heh, Smoke being all smart.

You're the one that seems to love to initiate online conflicts like a primary school kid. You're just showing everyone how childish you really are, probably in a rather pathetic attempt to make up for something you don't have. If you want to have an arguement like a 10 year old, then take it to the pointless drivel forum.

Don't argue with idoits, They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience...

I agree, but it's the reciting of that age old mantra that has led motorcyclists to believe that it's always someone else's fault.

Thankfully the poll appears to be showing a realisation to the contrary.

Katman, I agree with what you say about it is up to us because ultimately we hold our lives in our right hand.

[onearmedbandit]

Is a gun lying a table more dangerous than a TV remote? Nah, not until you put a human near it. And as far as I'm concerned, a bike is no more dangerous than a car, oh until you put that human near it. The big difference though, is on a bike you are more vulnerable. Plain and simple.

[avgas]

(unless of course you have quotable stats that prove MOST bikers bin it)

Yeah I agree with you.
Only the good ones bin it.

The others are just pussies.

[Deano]

My last crash was all Jason Nairn's fault !!

[Banditbandit]

Ask people to only vote on their most serious accident then.

Shit ... I dunno ... one minute I was going into a sweeping right-hand corner at around 110 klicks - the next I was forcing my eyes open on the grass verge .. fuck knows what happened ...