Power to weight restriction

[BiK3RChiK]

Is this in fact the case ? You lose YOUR no claims bonus if the other party is uninsured ?

DB

Yep. I was talking to a friend yesterday and they had their car keyed by some raging teens when it was parked on a street and they were going to lose their no-claims until they contested it and showed proof from the police that the teens had been arrested and were being charged for willful damage to property among other things.

[CookMySock]

ah well, better watch out I don't RAM YA then

DB

[JimO]

ah well, better watch out I don't RAM YA then

DB

w a n k e r...........

[McDuck]

ah well, better watch out I don't RAM YA then

DB

If you do i will rip your fucking head off.

[McDuck]

damit jim beat me to it

[huck farley]

Stumbled upon this whilst surfing the net. for discussion. Is the government doing the right thing?
Cheers
Huck

Posted at 9:10am on 30 Mar 2008

The Government plans to introduce new motorcycle safety rules, targeting novice riders.

Transport Safety Minister Harry Duynhoven says this is because far too many motorcyclists, particularly beginners in the over- 30 age group, are involved in crashes.

Since 2001, there has been a 28% increase in licenced motorcycles and an 80% increase in casualties.

Mr Duynhoven says the proposed changes include restrictions on the use of powerful motorcycles by novice riders.

He says there has been a big increase in the number of over-30s purchasing them but many older, first time riders lack skills and the awareness of how easy it is to get into a hazardous situation.

Mr Duynhoven says the safety proposals will go out for consultation with a law change expected by 2009.

Copyright © 2008 Radio New Zealand

[Burrt Badger]

They should have done it years ago, but they MUST also do the same for cars and learner drivers. Until they do, the carnage will continue!!!!

[Bikernereid]

Any links with more info as I had decided to do my license in NZ as opposed to the UK. That all sounds like it might be just another way of trying to put potential biker off getting thier license.

[CookMySock]

successfully trolled, lol.

DB

[Oakie]

Any links with more info as I had decided to do my license in NZ as opposed to the UK. That all sounds like it might be just another way of trying to put potential biker off getting thier license.

Links are way back at the start of the thread but the highlights are:

Restricting the use of powerful bikes by novice riders. Learners and restricted licence holders will be restricted to a power to weight ratio of 150 kilowatts per tonne (anyone care to put that into an understandable form?) and the bike must not be physically 'too large' for the rider (might be interesting to measure that).

Reducing the graduated license system by 6 months for riders who have completed an approved, bike specific training course.

Introducing a bike specific competency assessment option as an alternative to restricted and full licence tests for those who have done the 'approved, bike specific' course.

Setting a maximum 3 year validity on learner licenses.

Removing the 70kph speed limit restriction on learners

Introducing 25 demerit points for not wearing helmets but reducing the fine from $150 to $50

Requiring daytime running on headlights at all times.

Increasing the minimum time period bikers over 25 spend on a restricted licence from 6 to 12 months.

It's in the Road Safety to 2010 strategy. andd is designed to improve the fatality figures of novice riders. Also says that over 30s are over-represented in novice accident figures.
All looks pretty good to me and nothing I'd be really up in arms about although assessing when a bike is too physically big may be hard to be consistent about unless it's just about getting both feet on the ground when stopped.

[scracha]

Any links with more info as I had decided to do my license in NZ as opposed to the UK. That all sounds like it might be just another way of trying to put potential biker off getting thier license.

Why, you'll actually get some decent training and advice whilst getting your license in the UK?

[Paranoid Android]

but now there will be more to confuse the police that were struggling with the simpler rules. i have had cops tell me even on a learners you can do 100 kph others saying 70 on a restricted. will having a lot of different bike and ccs make it easier. i have known of people on learners to ride larger bikes.

but i do think the hundred 100 restriction should be removed.

sell your cbrs and zxrs now if guys can get a 400 or a 600 they will

[Bonez]

Any links with more info as I had decided to do my license in NZ as opposed to the UK. That all sounds like it might be just another way of trying to put potential biker off getting thier license.

No, on the contry, it smacks of common sence.

[Romeo]

So if we currently own a 45hp stonker of a 250, what are they going to do when the new rules are implemented?

Also, is there ANY distinction between "motorcycle riders" and scooter riders? Because I've seen a massive increase in the number of squids on scooters, but not so much an increase in learner motorcycle riders.

It's drummed into us time and again that traffic is the most dangerous place, yet the vast majority of learner traffic riders are on scooters - and they're seldom wearing any gear!


Rage

[Mikkel]

I think you're allowed to ride scooters and mopeds on your car license...

I'm guessing this could be partly why - as you wouldn't have to put up with ridiculous restrictions if you have a full car license.