Power to weight restriction

[CHOPPA]

It would be sweet if there was some sorta evaluation process you could go through where if you have your full car licence and you can demostrate advanced riding skills you could get your full bike right away.... It was so frustrating the fact that i could quite happily race a 1000 safely but i had to pass a basic handling coarse and my old lady who hadnt riden for 30 years was allowed to jump on the old buys hayabusa!

[Big Zappa]

I figure that out by using 1) the right numbers and 2) the right assumptions:

1 kW = 1.431 hps -> 45 hps = 34 kW (33.56 kW...)
Let's assume a weight of 150 kgs (including fluids this weight is a significantly low estimate) and then add 90 kgs for the rider.

Power to weight ratio: 34 kW/240 kgs = 142 kW/ton - and that is being very conservative.

I see, rider's weight part of it etc

Cool, no point in laying off the beers and the burgers!

[Mikkel]

I see, rider's weight part of it etc

Cool, no point in laying off the beers and the burgers!

Plenty of reason to loose weight. It would be inconceivable to rectify legislation based upon the body weight of the individual (imagine the hassle of all police cars having to be fitted with weights in order to weigh 6L and 6R roadusers). As such they will assume a certain body weight for an average rider - and so far it has been indicated that this figure is going to be 90 kgs.

As usual - if you want a performance upgrade that will beat carbon fibre hands down, STOP FUCKING EATING! (hey, it might even save you money.)

[sefer]

90kg! Exactly when did everyone in NZ gain an average height of 6'3? (and even at that height you'd be pushing at overweight!).

[Mikkel]

90kg! Exactly when did everyone in NZ gain an average height of 6'3? (and even at that height you'd be pushing at overweight!).

Don't you fucking oppress me with your damn lies about BMI and shit!

But consider adding gear into the equation and a backpack...

[musicman]

90kg! Exactly when did everyone in NZ gain an average height of 6'3? (and even at that height you'd be pushing at overweight!).

One could be 175cm, 90kgs, and only have 15% bodyfat. I would hardly call that overweight. Of course, one doesn't get that way by eating pies!

[swbarnett]

One could be 175cm, 90kgs, and only have 15% bodyfat. I would hardly call that overweight. Of course, one doesn't get that way by eating pies!

Or indeed in your 40s with a bit of middle-aged spread going on at 172cm.

[rachprice]

Anyway isn't some ridiculous proportion of Nzers overweight or obese, like a 1/3?
So saying an average weight of 90kg is probably accurate.
My flatmate is 84kg and around 178cm. He is not fat at all but ridiculously full of muscles so there is always the people full of muscle to take into account as well at the overweight!

[musicman]

Anyway isn't some ridiculous proportion of Nzers overweight or obese, like a 1/3?

When I was over in Australia in February this year I was told that 49% of Australians are overweight, so I would think NZ's 1/3 isn't such a ridiculous proportion... and can you imagine the proportion in America?

[swbarnett]

He is not fat at all but ridiculously full of muscles

Doesn't all that muscle add to the overall power of the bike/rider combination?

[rachprice]

When I was over in Australia in February this year I was told that 49% of Australians are overweight, so I would think NZ's 1/3 isn't such a ridiculous proportion... and can you imagine the proportion in America?

Oh yeah i know but NZ is up there with oz and the US i dont really want to quote figures cos i dont know them exactly
i know a lot of our chidren are and maori/PI even more overweight.

Doesn't all that muscle add to the overall power of the bike/rider combination?

possibly
just saying muscle has a higher density than fat and therefore weighs more. So just saying if you have lots of muscles you weigh lots....so 90kg as an average would be appropriate
But I know they will always take the upper limit of everything to try and include the highest proportion of the population

[tate35]

regardless of height and weights,im hoping ill be able to move up to say...
an gs500e [f] or similar whilst still on my learners

[tate35]

does anyone know if the kawasaki er6n and er6f are on the LAM list?

[musicman]

regardless of height and weights,im hoping ill be able to move up to say...
an gs500e [f] or similar whilst still on my learners

The GS500F looks cool, but is Suzuki NZ selling it?

[Irontusk]

I havn't read through the whole thread (I'm supposed to be studying my road code.. but I think I'm done? Who'd know..) but this has me really worried, I wish I had known earlier because I'm in the middle of buying a Suzuki VL250.. if this law comes in then the value of it will plummet. I'm happy with the bike for the learning process, but as the thread title suggests, I pay top dollar for it now and get nothing for it when I move on.. at the same time I don't want to wait to get a bike, I want to be ready to ride all summer!

The power/weight ratio rule is either unfair (whether it includes an average rider weight or not) or inconvenient to enforce..

On second thoughts, I woke up this morning and realised the opposite is more likely, 250s will stay where they are, and 250+s will go up to where they should be. What do other people think will happen?..