Not putting a vehicle in your name?

**racefactory** · 1st February 2011, 14:31

So what if you have bought a vehicle a good while ago and never put it into your name and neither did the seller? Are there any legal experts that could shed light here?

**Gremlin** · 1st February 2011, 17:24

Not a legal expert, but if neither buyer or seller have submitted the relevant paperwork, then the vehicle hasn't changed ownership. The rules do state you have to do it, but until you have, the old owner would be receiving infringements etc.

**Sable** · 2nd February 2011, 08:33

Register it under a company with a PO box. Saves it being linked to anyone

**ttmadness** · 2nd February 2011, 08:59

Originally Posted by Sable

Register it under a company with a PO box. Saves it being linked to anyone

I'd imagine if the local constabulary pulled you over though, they'd say you had stolen it. Also, the company you registered it under would possibly be receiving a lot of correspondence and fines that are not intended for them and being held responsible? That would cause mayhem I would think.

**avgas** · 2nd February 2011, 09:38

I will give anyone my details, and you can put the vehicle in my name.

All I require in return is a copy of the keys and the location of the vehicle.

Then I turn up to your place, and drive away with my new car / bike. If you follow me I call the cops and say your trying to steal my vehicle. You go to jail, I get your vehicle. Win-Win.

I see no problem at with this. Who's first?

**Max Preload** · 2nd February 2011, 10:02

Originally Posted by ttmadness

I'd imagine if the local constabulary pulled you over though, they'd say you had stolen it. Also, the company you registered it under would possibly be receiving a lot of correspondence and fines that are not intended for them and being held responsible? That would cause mayhem I would think.

You misunderstand.

**Max Preload** · 2nd February 2011, 10:05

Originally Posted by avgas

I will give anyone my details, and you can put the vehicle in my name.

All I require in return is a copy of the keys and the location of the vehicle.

Then I turn up to your place, and drive away with my new car / bike. If you follow me I call the cops and say your trying to steal my vehicle. You go to jail, I get your vehicle. Win-Win.

I see no problem at with this. Who's first?

Originally Posted by davereid

There is no longer any relationship between the "registered owner" and the actual person who holds title to the vehicle.

Sounds good to me. Then I can park my unlicensed unwarranted car in the CBD you'll get all the tickets! A couple of months of that and you'll be getting a torrent of love letters from the Auckland Council! Being stationary vehicle offences they become the registered owner's problem, nott he drivers.

Where do I sign up for this money saving scheme?

**avgas** · 2nd February 2011, 10:29

Originally Posted by Max Preload

Sounds good to me. Then I can park my unlicensed unwarranted car in the CBD you'll get all the tickets! A couple of months of that and you'll be getting a torrent of love letters from the Auckland Council! Being stationary vehicle offences they become the registered owner's problem, nott he drivers.

Where do I sign up for this money saving scheme?

Easy solved for me in 1 day. I reckon I can make a good hundy out of the whole deal
http://www.jpnzautoparts.co.nz/?gcli...FSJ0gwodJEPz0A

Oh..... did you want to keep your car?

**Max Preload** · 2nd February 2011, 11:13

Originally Posted by avgas

Easy solved for me in 1 day. I reckon I can make a good hundy out of the whole deal
http://www.jpnzautoparts.co.nz/?gcli...FSJ0gwodJEPz0A

Oh..... did you want to keep your car?

You misunderstand. I won't give you my REAL address. I'm not that silly. If the NZTA can't get it out of me, you certainly haven't a snowflake's chance in hell!

Not to mention you'll only be the registered owner, which does not give you legal title to even possess, much less scrap, it!

Enjoy your unlawful taking charge!

**kiwiasylum** · 2nd February 2011, 21:23

A new law will come into effect on 1 April 2011 that will better protect your personal information on the Motor Vehicle Register. Currently, the names and addresses held on the Motor Vehicle Register are publicly available to any person who provides the registration plate number of the vehicle and pays the prescribed fee.

After 1 April names and addresses from the register will only be available for the purposes of: enforcement of the law; maintenance of the security of New Zealand; collection of charges imposed or authorised by an enactment; and the administration and development of transport law and policy. Anyone who wishes to obtain names and addresses held on the register outside of these purposes will have to make an Official Information Act request to the NZTA. When considering such a request the NZTA must weigh up the public interest in releasing the information sought against the privacy rights of the person concerned.

Alternatively any person may seek a special 'authorisation' from the Secretary for Transport . These third parties authorised by the Ministry of Transport will have access to your name and address details via your vehicle registration plates. For further information please go to http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/regi...formation.html

You can revoke this access here.

You will need:

* your New Zealand driver licence
* a note of your vehicle's registration plate number(s)

Please note:

*
Your request to Opt-Out will not become effective until 1 April 2011 when the new law comes into effect
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if you are a joint owner your details will be automatically be withheld if the primary owner opts-out
*

this option is not available for companies or other corporate bodies

**racefactory** · 3rd February 2011, 00:36

No thanks, I just won't put them in my name from now on full stop. I'm still the legal owner.

**jaykay** · 3rd February 2011, 05:04

The Registered owner ends up being responsible for Infringements by post, ie parking and speed cam tickets have to be dealt with.
You can only get out of this responsibility when some other entity becomes the registered owner (or the vehicle is scrapped).

The registered owner is not necessarily the legal owner.

**racefactory** · 3rd February 2011, 12:48

So what if you buy a vehicle and then never put it in your name? Can you be ticketed for this?

**avgas** · 3rd February 2011, 13:56

Originally Posted by jaykay

The registered owner is not necessarily the legal owner.

Explain to me whom is then?
And what evidence they have to provide in court to prove this?

**marty** · 3rd February 2011, 17:30

Originally Posted by hellokitty

My husband has been pulled over on his bike several times and questioned why he is a riding a "woman's" bike. Who is he in relation to the woman that the bike is registered to? They even called me at work. These cops have an issue with it. The bike is in my name as the finance is in my name. This is becoming a regular thing so I am changing the rego into his name.
Don't give the cops the chance to accuse you of stealing the car or bike. If my husband had been a smart-arse, the situation could have turned ugly.

just put it into co-registered owner. there's a box on the MRwhatever to fill out.