Pack Jack?

**JacksDad** · 2nd February 2011, 19:39

Has anyone used a Pack Jack? Or know of anything similar. Looks like a good idea and cheaper than a center stand.
http://www.packjack.ca/

**Padmei** · 2nd February 2011, 19:41

Can it raise the back wheel 400mm to get it off the ground?

**Crisis management** · 2nd February 2011, 19:46

Nope, but it looks like a waste of space to me. It's either lay it on the ground or find a rock or stick to hold it up with, that's what I did with the DR anyway, the 640 comes with centre stand (it's one thing I won't take off to reduce weight)

**warewolf** · 3rd February 2011, 19:56

Originally Posted by JacksDad

Or know of anything similar.

There's a telescoping alloy tube that does similar. It sorta hooks on to the swingarm or bottom of the front fork, resting on the ground at an angle. Then you just push/lift the bike and it swings more vertical and holds the wheel off the ground.

Motomail used to have them 10+ years ago, they were ok for removing wheels. The tubes had a push-pin to adjust the length and halve the size for stowage.

**nothingflash** · 3rd February 2011, 20:06

I use a bit of wood under the outside foot peg - same principle, but that probably wouldn't fit in the tool kit.

**PeteJ** · 4th February 2011, 13:51

Originally Posted by nothingflash

I use a bit of wood under the outside foot peg - same principle, but that probably wouldn't fit in the tool kit.

Yeah, these ones depend on lifting at the axle - much easier than the peg where first of all you've gotta take up the suspension sag (unless you have a rigid frame, but I wasn't aware any of the girls on this thread rode rigid bikes).

**NordieBoy** · 4th February 2011, 16:39

Oiling the chain is no problem but changing a wheel with something that lifts at the axle?

**CRM** · 4th February 2011, 16:43

Actually looks pretty good. I think I'd have room for one under my seat. how much?

**hayd3n** · 4th February 2011, 16:57

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

Oiling the chain is no problem but changing a wheel with something that lifts at the axle?

+1
it would be way better if it lifted at the swingarm

**BMWST?** · 4th February 2011, 17:50

centre stands ftw....imho its ludicrous if a bike doesnt have one

**NordieBoy** · 4th February 2011, 21:03

Originally Posted by BMWST?

centre stands ftw....imho its ludicrous if a bike doesnt have one

My DR one weighs a ton and raises the rear wheel about 10cm off the ground...

**PeteJ** · 4th February 2011, 21:21

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

Oiling the chain is no problem but changing a wheel with something that lifts at the axle?

Fran, have a look at their vid.

It lifts at/under the swingarm.

If you don't have a bobble on the swingarm as we do on our road racers, it'll still lift from underneath.

I do actually know about this idea, as I've had a home-made equivalent for 25 years. Two bits of 2x2 with a door hinge.

**NordieBoy** · 5th February 2011, 06:47

Originally Posted by PeteJ

Fran, have a look at their vid.

It lifts at/under the swingarm.

If you don't have a bobble on the swingarm as we do on our road racers, it'll still lift from underneath.

I do actually know about this idea, as I've had a home-made equivalent for 25 years. Two bits of 2x2 with a door hinge.

Without a spool or positive detent I wouldn't trust it under the swing arm on any of my bikes.

**JacksDad** · 5th February 2011, 20:05

Originally Posted by PeteJ

Fran, have a look at their vid.

It lifts at/under the swingarm.

If you don't have a bobble on the swingarm as we do on our road racers, it'll still lift from underneath.

I do actually know about this idea, as I've had a home-made equivalent for 25 years. Two bits of 2x2 with a door hinge.

Good idea, I'll find a spare hinge tomorrow and make one myself. Cheers.