Old doddery couple or give way rule.

[Bliksem]

You clearly slowed down when you saw the red car.

If you kept your speed steady the outcome would have been different.

[spajohn]

My folks are circa 70 or so, and told me of an older friend who pulled out of a supermarket, and subsequently was pulled up by a cop, because he had to brake / slow down...meaning that they did not leave a big enough gap / accelerated too slowly, just like in the OP's vid. The result...she was made to re-sit her driving test and I believe no longer has a license.

[neels]

They are in the wrong x2,

Not only have they failed to give way, they have also entered an intersection when their exit from is not clear.

Looking at the aerial shot, it's not a merging lane just a marked turning lane from the intersection so they shouldn't have been parked there in the first place.

And regarding failing to give way, my wife got pinged for this because a car 100m away from the intersection braked when she pulled out, so the cop following them ticketed her because she caused them to brake.

[C.Linnell]

*555 him - BJC544

[MSTRS:Me]

My folks are circa 70 or so, and told me of an older friend who pulled out of a supermarket, and subsequently was pulled up by a cop, because he had to brake / slow down...meaning that they did not leave a big enough gap / accelerated too slowly, just like in the OP's vid. The result...she was made to re-sit her driving test and I believe no longer has a license.

Tick up one win...

They are in the wrong x2,

Not only have they failed to give way, they have also entered an intersection when their exit from is not clear.

Looking at the aerial shot, it's not a merging lane just a marked turning lane from the intersection so they shouldn't have been parked there in the first place.

We have the same sort of 'not-quite a merging lane' here, too. Routinely used by one, possibly two, cars at a time, as a holding point. Having to cross 2 lanes of traffic to enter the outside of two across from the give way - usually impossible to have 3 clear lanes at the same time.

And regarding failing to give way, my wife got pinged for this because a car 100m away from the intersection braked when she pulled out, so the cop following them ticketed her because she caused them to brake.

Need more info to know whether cop was reasonable or not. Depends on speed zone for a start. Also, was the braking driver a Nervous Nellie, for instance.

[avgas]

... but, but they hhuuurt my feelings!!! ... I am so badly shaken after the incident I cant bring my self to start the death trap up

Clearly
Go secretly hug a honda rider.

[cheshirecat]

Get your wok mates to point out the road rules that apply and run a bet on it

[DEATH_INC.]

Looking at the aerial, it could be considered a merge lane, but it is a VERY short one at that.

Ah, that pic makes it clear, there is a broken white line, so no merge as such (they had to cross a line/change lanes) so I retract what I said earlier , they DON'T have the right of way.

[Banditbandit]

shit happens. You had 100m to slow down.
No major.
Buy a box a tissues you pussy.

Its not a case of right or wrong unless you are a cop, or they crash INTO you.

HTFU or sell up

CRAP ... the bike was at rhe end of the white line extending back from the intersection ... they are alla stadard length .. go and stand on one and ask yourself: If I was here on a motorbike doing 50 kph would I want a car pulling into the space in front of me from a standing start? The distance is way way way less than 100 metres.

Sure he saw the car from that distance - but it is reasonable to assume that the car would wait for the bike to go past - of course any rider worth his or her licence would be wary of the car - and avoid an accident ... as happened here ...

It's still the car's fault by a country mile ...

[martybabe]

Absolutely wrong, I just think the old fella decided to go and to hell with the consequences...as they do. To merge safely you should not cause an oncoming driver to swerve or slow down. He was gonna do it if you'd been traveling at 30 or 100k.

On a similar theme, has any one come across the practice of ignoring the filter lane altogether when turning right in the above scenario, as in crossing your lane at 90 degrees to you then accelerating (hopefully) along the shoulder and joining from the left instead of the right. It seems to be getting more and more common around these parts and it's a bloody lethal practice. On a 100k stretch of road you are faced with a virtually stationary vehicle sideways across your lane.

Hard to explain but it's like the oldies above but instead of crawling into your lane, they totally block your lane first and then crawl off

[That looks like fun]

Sure he saw the car from that distance - but it is reasonable to assume that the car would wait for the bike to go past - of course any rider worth his or her licence would be wary of the car - and avoid an accident ... as happened here ...

It's still the car's fault by a country mile ...

Is it reasonable to crash into an idiot? What the driver of the red car did was not excusable in anyway shape or form. Totally in the wrong So what did he do? He (assuming its not some Wendy driving) moved into the merging (or whatever it is thingy) gave way to the first vehicle then merged with the traffic. What did he do wrong? Never saw the bike? Never accelerated fast enough? didn't wait for a large enough gap to carry out the merge safely?
Biker down and possibly out, shaken Wendy late for work.
Actions I saw in Video, rider realized car had pulled out in front of him, moved left and braked (correct me if there was more)
Camera clearly shows red car sitting in intersection, first alarm rings!!!!!, plan action, check traffic behind, prepare to carry out plan. Assess all risk,s escape paths etc. Truck blocking left side of road, make sure moving left wasn't part of your plan car starts to move forward slowly, put plan in action, slow down merge in behind car . Breath in, Breath out .......... repeat. Simple as that.

[javawocky]

Absolutely wrong, I just think the old fella decided to go and to hell with the consequences...as they do. To merge safely you should not cause an oncoming driver to swerve or slow down. He was gonna do it if you'd been traveling at 30 or 100k. ...

I think the drivers were completely oblivious to anything else - or were too old to care. I followed them over the bridge at 40kph (indicated ) then carefully passed them when the road splits in two. I would probably have given them the KB finger when passing if they were younger but I sighed and moved on...

[MSTRS:Me]

Get your wok mates to point out the road rules that apply and run a bet on it

Oh yeah - 'they' are worse than old people...

[Max Preload]

There has been some debate around the office this morning regarding a video I shared of an old couple pulling out in front of me. I thought it was just old age setting in, but some, who lives around those parts said they had right of way.

I would suggest that anyone that says they had RoW have their license chopped into little bits and be forced to take the bus forever because they're clearly a fuckwit and shouldn't be driving.

The stupid old coot crossed a dashed line into another lane - he has no RoW whatsoever under any circumstances.

There's no way that was a safe merge either.

[avgas]

Sure he saw the car from that distance - but it is reasonable to assume that the car would wait for the bike to go past - of course any rider worth his or her licence would be wary of the car - and avoid an accident ... as happened here ...
It's still the car's fault by a country mile ...

Can I get an amen! PRAISE THE LORD AND OUR LADY


but isn't she also the mother of all fuck ups?

Fault, liability.....all technicalities for lawyers to sort out.
The key is to not be dead when they do so - otherwise its kinda irrelevant.