What bike for Mom?

**The Pastor** · 23rd February 2011, 09:55

have you tried growing taller? Or training wheels?

**Latte** · 26th February 2011, 07:46

Another cherry red SCG

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-356791737.htm

**Maha** · 26th February 2011, 08:02

Wonder if the owner will accept a more realistic offer?

**James Deuce** · 26th February 2011, 08:02

WTF is up with these Buell owners thinking their bikes are worth a million dollars. They went out the door at around $13-$14k after Black October.

Take 20% off for riding it out the door. 10% a year and 10% per 10,000kms. That gives us a value of $6626 for this particular bike assuming the upper figure of $14000 new.

BTW, just because you paid $18000 for your one new, doesn't mean you get to start there. Second hand prices are affected by end-of-life discount or any other discounting that the manufacturer, distributor, or dealer applies to the same model of bike during its particular model run. This is why I won't buy new Suzukis.

NZ has notoriously expensive second hand bikes, so we'll say $8000 market value for the bike in the TradeMe advert. Not $11000.

**Ocean1** · 26th February 2011, 08:35

Originally Posted by James Deuce

WTF is up with these Buell owners thinking their bikes are worth a million dollars. They went out the door at around $13-$14k after Black October.

Take 20% off for riding it out the door. 10% a year and 10% per 10,000kms. That gives us a value of $6626 for this particular bike assuming the upper figure of $14000 new.

BTW, just because you paid $18000 for your one new, doesn't mean you get to start there. Second hand prices are affected by end-of-life discount or any other discounting that the manufacturer, distributor, or dealer applies to the same model of bike during its particular model run. This is why I won't buy new Suzukis.

NZ has notoriously expensive second hand bikes, so we'll say $8000 market value for the bike in the TradeMe advert. Not $11000.

New Suzukis tend to be the same as old Suzukis, and they're cheap enough to start with. With Buells there's an exclusivity factor, particularly wrt the low production number Buells that holds their price up. They also seem to be the dream bike for a lot of people, if and when they can afford one.

Neither of which interests me. However, here's the rub: even before the prices were cut they were bloody good value for money. I paid bugger all under the fire-sale price for my latest one and that's easy to justify if you compare similarly spec'd alternatives.

So I'd say your pricing rationale is a tad out, but your price on that CG is about right. If their intention were genuinely to sell the bike they'd be asking $9k - $10k to get $8k - $9k. I'd quite like your ideas to catch on, though. I like the idea of ongoing cheap-as-chips Buells.

**Maha** · 26th February 2011, 09:06

That is probably the reason for the price hike in the previous contender.
Started at $10K because she wanted $10k.
Probably not alot of interest above 8-9K so the price was increased to $11.5K ono because, she wanted $10K.
Ok we get it, she wants $10k...and would probably have got that had she been more accomodating to the top bidder. I am a firm believer that a bike is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

**short-circuit** · 26th February 2011, 15:07

Originally Posted by Maha

Wonder if the owner will accept a more realistic offer?

Only one way to find out

**Smifffy** · 26th February 2011, 19:30

Originally Posted by Maha

Wonder if the owner will accept a more realistic offer?

Probably priced it based on that other auction.

Most people check tardme for the same model "to get an idea of market value" before posting their bike.

Was probably like "ooh if they get that for that bike, then mine must be worth $11k, maybe I should sell then I can afford an xyzabc"

**Maha** · 26th February 2011, 19:37

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Only one way to find out

May or may not happen, buyer has not seen the latest offering.

Originally Posted by Smifffy

Probably priced it based on that other auction.

Most people check tardme for the same model "to get an idea of market value" before posting their bike.

Was probably like "ooh if they get that for that bike, then mine must be worth $11k, maybe I should sell then I can afford an xyzabc"

Yeah I guess, theres a 2010 Z1000 on TM for $14.5K which is way below current market value, that would be a great buy.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-341406122.htm
Not the right bike for Mom though but still good buying.
The SR4 that was posted earlier at under $10K is also very good buying.