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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Hi Viz wont protect me from anything on the road.
    So far I have yet to see proof that a headlight on, a rear brake, tread on my tyres or a horn have protected ME from anything on the road.

    Might go and rip some of the items off my bike, not sure about the tread on the front wheel but I'll give it a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Today they said "A man and child were killed in a car crash near Lake Waihola"

    It was a woman and child, south of Milton

    Good old media, chock-full of facts eh...
    Well it would still be better if "Police Officer 3 subject NCEA" could refrain from opining on the worth of a hi-vis vest in a road fatality involving motorcycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Today they said "A man and child were killed in a car crash near Lake Waihola"

    It was a woman and child, south of Milton

    Good old media, chock-full of facts eh...
    Which is what the thread was fuckin started about!

    No that the cop said it, but that it was said ON THE NEWS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    ... because the thread is based on an opinion, and weather you think it's founded well or not, we know our opinion to be A FACT.
    FACT BASED ON OPINION ... YOUR OPINION ... mmmmmm ... your original post stated that ... "basically he is saying" ... that is opinion not fact.

    You have your opinion .... I have mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Which is what the thread was fuckin started about!

    No that the cop said it, but that it was said ON THE NEWS!
    Ah, so it is the REPORTER that the KB sickle, scythe & pitchfork crew should be after, thanks for clearing that up....
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    So far I have yet to see proof that a headlight on, a rear brake, tread on my tyres or a horn have protected ME from anything on the road.

    Might go and rip some of the items off my bike, not sure about the tread on the front wheel but I'll give it a shot.
    I know for a fact that my headlight, rear brake and tyre tread have prevented accidents in the past. The horn I'm still not sure about, but what the hell I'll keep it for now.

    Instead of a hi-vis vest, I'm thinking maybe a laser pointer shone in the eyes might get the attention of wayward cagers.

    Maybe they should make that mandatory?
    Keep on chooglin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    FACT BASED ON OPINION ... YOUR OPINION ... mmmmmm ... your original post stated that ... "basically he is saying" ... that is opinion not fact.

    You have your opinion .... I have mine.

    Personally ... I believe your opinion is full of shit ... but that is only my opinion ...
    It is a fact, that the OP is our opinion. It is also a fact that the reason we formed an opinion, was a fuckin dumb thing being said on the news.

    Is that simple enough for you, or shall I dumb it down another shade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Ah, so it is the REPORTER that the KB sickle, scythe & pitchfork crew should be after, thanks for clearing that up....
    Fuck that, it was an avenue to vent about something motorcycle related that pissed us off.

    Katman chimed in and it was all on from there. Make of that what you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Which is what the thread was fuckin started about!

    No that the cop said it, but that it was said ON THE NEWS!
    So ... it was said on the news so it must be fact ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Fuck that, it was an avenue to vent about something motorcycle related that pissed us off.

    Katman chimed in and it was all on from there. Make of that what you will.
    It pissed YOU off ... from thence it started ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    So ... it was said on the news so it must be fact ...

    You really DO live in a dream world ... save yourself ... WAKE UP ...
    It was FACT that it was said on the news.....

    It may or may not have been said by the cop. So either the cop or the reporter is a fucktard. (in some of our opinions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    So ... it was said on the news so it must be fact ...

    You really DO live in a dream world ... save yourself ... WAKE UP ...

    Nope, I gotta go dumber still to penetrate your one eyed friggin reading skills.

    What the reporter said, was (to my mind) an outrage.

    And that is what the thread was started about.

    Do you get it yet?

    It was never said that she was reporting any truth, or position of the police.

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    So do we all agree then?

    The statement, regardless of who made it, that:

    "The rider may have lived if he had been wearing a hi-vis vest"

    a. Deflects responsibility from the other party
    b. Reflects unfairly on the motorcyclist
    c. was unfounded and unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    I know for a fact that my headlight, rear brake and tyre tread have prevented accidents in the past. The horn I'm still not sure about, but what the hell I'll keep it for now.

    Instead of a hi-vis vest, I'm thinking maybe a laser pointer shone in the eyes might get the attention of wayward cagers.

    Maybe they should make that mandatory?
    I'm not sure driving blind would stop them, in fact I'm sure a few wouldn't notice.

    A loud horn is good for those times the cars mistake is in slow motion, if you know what I mean, but if the hazard requires things to happen fast the last control I'm thinking about is a horn button.

    I think this high Vis jacket thing is probably complicated by the different types of riding or probably more correctly where.
    Inner city stuff, interacting with other traffic is different than being alone or with a few mates on a favourite loop of open road, then the third piece are those who don't want to be told to wear one on principle. I'm not sure how many of the second group are part of the third but perhaps if the jackets are seen as a form of communication, other than the first group I mentioned, high Vis jackets don't really have anyone to comunicate with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    It was FACT that it was said on the news.....

    It may or may not have been said by the cop. So either the cop or the reporter is a fucktard. (in some of our opinions).
    As I have stated in a previous post in THIS thread ... The cop may have been correct in this instance ... this one instance.

    ONE time where had the rider been wearing a high vis' vest ... he May have been seen, and the "accident" avoided.

    The assertion ... that this statement by the cop is an admission of future policy, and that all (or any) "accidents" in the future ... could be avoided if the riders are/were wearing a high vis vest ... I FIND STUPID. Again ... MY opinion.
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