Police say had the rider been wearing...

[DMNTD:Me]

If people can't see a big-arsed railway locomotive with a big-arsed headlight (or two) and on a fixed track how the hell are we motorcyclists ever going to be seen consistently????

So are they going to throw a fluro paint job on them?

[Grahameeboy]

To be honest, if the rider is wearing any kind of camo outfit, my sympathies are with the driver who didn't see them.

You "smiff" so??

[Foxzee]

See here you spinless fucking FAGGOT (you won't mind such language, seeing as you've called me a "whiney homo" here on KB), you've stated that a 'u' turn is always see-able!!?? That to me is very much the same as saying the poor DEAD fucking motorcyclist is partly to blame seeing as his/her skills are obviously nowhere near as good as yours.

You really do suck arse.

Agree!...+1

[popelli]

this i did not see him excuse has been going on forever

may be the safety nazi's could come up with something sensible ie the compulsory fitting of audible safety devices of 120db so people with deficient eyesight can hear motorcycles coming

Loud pipes save Lives

[Thaeos]

You're correct. But a headlight will be far brighter than any reflected light from a vest to those in front of the bike, and your brain reacts far more to contrast than colour.

In fact some research demonstrated that the most visible colour in a suburban setting during daylight is.... Black.

Black? Really? That's pretty counter-intuitive. I'd like to see the source. Wasn't there also a study that showed motorcyclists with white helmets were in less accidents than those with black ones? Pulling this out of my ass btw I have no source.

On another note, Katman is a full time troll guys. If you haven't realised this by now..

[Katman]

and the speculative comment about the lack of an item of clothing being the cause of his demise is nothing short of disgraceful.

But they didn't say that, did they Anne.

[Smifffy]

You "smiff" so??

Pardon, sorry, what?

[Mom]

To who enquired

Yes the press release went directly to the Police HQ.

[oneofsix]

this i did not see him excuse has been going on forever

Like with smoking and drink driving. Make the excuse socially unacceptable and you will see a lot less of it. Some heavy careless driving charges for every blind driver, start with some over the top penalties to get the media to take notice.

No matter what the biker does there will always be drivers that don't "see" them. Give the driver a reason to see.

[Ocean1]

So are they going to throw a fluro paint job on them?

Dem's pretty bright, dude.

And those lights add up to about 50 mototcycle headlights.



And people still play chicken with 'em.

[scumdog]

So are they going to throw a fluro paint job on them?

No.

Because a crash involving a locomotive rarely results in the death of the engine driver.

BUT all cars are going to have a fluro paint job

So the train driver can see them in time to swerve around them...

[pritch]

They ( our fellow road users) are not in anyway educated to look for anything other than a bloody BIG TRUCK, that after all, is all that they are going to stop for, as a matter of self preservation.

Even that won't work. I saw the result of an fatality by the Kopu bridge a year or three back. A car pulled out of a gas station right into the path of a bus.

My thought at the time was, "If the fuckwits can't see a bus, we've got no show."

Hi vis vest? Yeah right!

[BAD DAD]

I'd rather they make u-turns illegal before forcing us to wear hi-vis vests. I'd put my money on it being far more effective

You have just read, the Voice of Reason.
If any rider here can provide evidence of infallibility, please contact me and I will lobby for you to be the next Pope.

[Paul in NZ]

Instead of tearing each other to shreads it would be nice to consider the families of those who have lost loved ones. Bloody bad weekend to be a motorcyclist...

Guys - you have to be careful reacting to media comments. It all gets cut up and chopped into controversial sound bites, who knows what ELSE the cop said because he doesnt get to decide what goes to air... Whats happening here is just mana from heaven for the news guys - 'Motorcyclists outraged at Police' great byline on a slow day when maybe the cop acually went on to say 'but the truck driver was 100% to blame' or anyone of a thousand things.. Dont get your tits in a tangle about it because as soon as you do - you loose the fight.

If you are genuinely concerned - email the media that ran with this - if we all do it, the message gets across, email their advertisers too... Tell em you and 10,000 of your mates and their familes are not buying their munt cos they are anti biker...

For what its worth - IMHO a hi viz vest is mostly a waste. They are usually invisible from the front and bikers are seldom hit from behind. For a while I had a while / fluro helmet and it made no difference except my bonce was cooler in the sun than with my current black one.

FFS - me and the grandsons were nearly taken out in a fuckin giant Camry sationwagon today with out lights on and two fluro kayaks on the roof and a moron STILL didnt see us and he flew across 2 lanes to occupy our bit of road and then flew back cos he changed his mind....

Point is - both side have a point. It is a bloody stupid (bordering on outrageous) statement BUT as riders, observation is our best defence against morons.... The worst possible outcome is the guy has died and we argue here? How does that help?

[rwh]

(b) It's ferkin' KB, when has 'sticking to know facts' ever been a requirement to posting here???

It's more about the poster than the forum. It just happens that KB seems to have a higher proportion of people who talk bullshit. Doesn't mean you have to join them.

Richard