Police say had the rider been wearing...

**scumdog** · 7th February 2011, 07:57

Originally Posted by miloking

I like the typical "covering our asses" statement:

"The initial indication is that speed isn't an issue and that both were travelling under the speed limit."

If it was two motorcyclists it woult probably be something like :The initial indication is that extreme speed & not wearing hi-viz was issue and that both criminal riders were under influence of something but we dont know what yet".

Fuck i hate these media spokesman "policing managers" faggots..

Mwahahaha, another knicker-twisting incident...

**miloking** · 7th February 2011, 08:02

Originally Posted by scumdog

Mwahahaha, another knicker-twisting incident...

Serves you right:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...hed-in-Dunedin

...street justice i guess?

Its actualy good people stand up to your bulshit sometimes..

**rustic101** · 7th February 2011, 08:06

Well thirteen pages later...My mothers words resonate in my mind..

"Son, believe half of what you see and nothing of what you read or hear"

With respect to the media reporting and KB posts, I reckon she's bang on with her wise words....

Thoughts go out to All the families of the riders killed or injured this past weekend.

**scumdog** · 7th February 2011, 08:06

Originally Posted by miloking

Serves you right:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...hed-in-Dunedin

...street justice i guess?

Its actualy good people stand up to your bulshit sometimes..

Ah, actually it's 'bullshit' - with two L's, as in actually.
And I suspect it's 'bad people' that you really mean.
Glad to help.

**Pixie** · 7th February 2011, 08:12

And the the prize for the best response to the Policeman's comment goes to:

" And the cop who was killed while deploying road spikes last year was a dumb cunt and an irresponsible road user because he was not wearing a Hi-Vis Vest.The fleeing driver should be commended for bringing his failings to public attention"

**Spearfish** · 7th February 2011, 08:16

Originally Posted by miloking

Serves you right:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...hed-in-Dunedin

...street justice i guess?

Its actualy good people stand up to your bulshit sometimes..

How does that "serve him right"?
Seriously, think about it, how?

Milo, with that statement you sound like everything you hate, but that's not unusual, most here seem to do the same thing as well.

**Smifffy** · 7th February 2011, 08:17

Well, without delving further into the cop bashing stuff, I think that what is at issue in the OP is that it was inappropriate for the officer quoted to speculate that the rider may not have perished had he been wearing a high vis vest.

Being a Sunday it was always going to make for a good sound-bite for lazy journalists.

The question is "what can be done to address it?"

I really don't think that such speculation is very helpful in improving road safety or encouraging compliance and co-operation from motorcyclists, as evidenced by this thread.

**rustic101** · 7th February 2011, 08:18

Originally Posted by Pixie

And the the prize for the best response to the Policeman's comment goes to:

" And the cop who was killed while deploying road spikes last year was a dumb cunt and an irresponsible road user because he was not wearing a Hi-Vis Vest.The fleeing driver should be commended for bringing his failings to public attention"

I take extreme offence to this post -

I knew Derek well and am still very good friends with Bronwyn. I find this post in very bad taste.

**Kickaha** · 7th February 2011, 08:25

Originally Posted by Usarka

How the fuck can someone with 95 demerit points harp on about identifying hazards without being a right hypocrite?

Depends on what he got them for? demerits don't necessarily mean he was doing anything unsafe, unless of course you believe the whole speed kills

Originally Posted by scumdog

While looking at that I discovered an article on fatal motorbike crash near Herbetville, a bike-only crash through a fence into trees.

A bad day for the 56 year old Upper Hutt rider.

NOT on topic I know but nobody else seemed to notice it.

Quiet you, we don't like to acknowledge single bike accidents happen

**James Deuce** · 7th February 2011, 08:28

Originally Posted by rustic101

I take extreme offence to this post -

I knew Derek well and am still very good friends with Bronwyn. I find this post in very bad taste.

Good. Now you know how that motorcyclist's family feels.

**avgas** · 7th February 2011, 08:28

Originally Posted by miloking

Its actualy good people stand up to your bulshit sometimes..

Yeah
go the mongrel mob.....

whatever

**Smifffy** · 7th February 2011, 08:30

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Depends on what he got them for? demerits don't necessarily mean he was doing anything unsafe, unless of course you believe the whole speed kills

I think that the suggestion was that the enforcement method employed, be it camera or officer, should be considered a hazard, and if our dear correspondent had been riding with eyes open on the constant watch for hazards, then he would have been able to see the perceived hazard in sufficient time to react accordingly, thereby saving himself the pain of collecting the demerits.

Sometimes shit just happens.

**rustic101** · 7th February 2011, 08:31

Originally Posted by James Deuce

Good. Now you know how that motorcyclist's family feels.

A question? At what point in time ever, including replying to your crash, have I ever disrespected a 'downed' rider or their family?

**Katman** · 7th February 2011, 08:33

Originally Posted by Smifffy

I think that the suggestion was that the enforcement method employed, be it camera or officer, should be considered a hazard, and if our dear correspondent had been riding with eyes open on the constant watch for hazards, then he would have been able to see the perceived hazard in sufficient time to react accordingly, thereby saving himself the pain of collecting the demerits.

Sometimes shit just happens.

Yeah, except that a cop hiding on the side of the road with a laser gun isn't exactly a safety hazard, is it?