Aprilia Toureg 600

[Waihou Thumper]

I would be very surprised if the valves were not bent. Due to the combustion chamber design there are not many modern engines that have clearance when a valve is fully open and the piston comes up to TDC.

Might pay to check the Valve clearances 1st otherwise you will just have to pull it apart again.

I am hoping that design will help out here re tolerances. It is an old motor, the belt is an easy access 2 three allen screws on the side.
Mark, you have more knowledge than me, as does most of Kiwibiker I will certainly ask Nik (NV) his opinion in the morning when I front up with the broken belt.

Might pay to check the Valve clearances 1st otherwise you will just have to pull it apart again.

​Yes on that count for sure...I will get it done.

[NordieBoy]

I have markings for TDC, I will get the bike shop to source a belt if they can. I have a source but it is expensive (euro) approx $225 for two with shipping but these are Pegaso belts (same Rotax engine) I will ask NV Motorcycles in the morning, take the belt and go from there.

On the Nordwest, the belt is only available from Gilera.
I've had several people say "Bring it in, we can get any type of belt" and ended up getting it from England myself...

Rotax should be easier to source.

I would be very surprised if the valves were not bent. Due to the combustion chamber design there are not many modern engines that have clearance when a valve is fully open and the piston comes up to TDC.

The Nordie was at 7,000rpm after changing down a cog when the belt snapped. The valves were sweet Surprised the hell out of me. I thought I was looking at $150 per valve and a $90 belt.

[cooneyr]

I would be very surprised if the valves were not bent. Due to the combustion chamber design there are not many modern engines that have clearance when a valve is fully open and the piston comes up to TDC. .....

......The Nordie was at 7,000rpm after changing down a cog when the belt snapped. The valves were sweet Surprised the hell out of me. .....

This is a bit intriguing about lack of bent valves with belt driven motors. I'd have expected bent valves as well.

Wild and woolly theory's time - belt disengages from cam sprocket very quickly so removes inertia from system and valve springs strong enough to stop cam turning almost instantly and close valves. Apart from belts snapping more regularly this sample of two (that I know of) is good reason to run belts over chains. Then again chains don't snap, they stretch, get noisy and you replace them.

Like I said woolly engineering going on here!

Cheers R

[Waihou Thumper]

On the Nordwest, the belt is only available from Gilera.
I've had several people say "Bring it in, we can get any type of belt" and ended up getting it from England myself...

Rotax should be easier to source.



The Nordie was at 7,000rpm after changing down a cog when the belt snapped. The valves were sweet Surprised the hell out of me. I thought I was looking at $150 per valve and a $90 belt.

Well, the part may have to come from UK, still waiting on prices here in New Zealand. I wasn't going that fast Nordie, just changing up to fourth.
I have e-mailed the Rotax Guru, Peter Knight. www.rotax.co.uk so will see what he says first, get a belt first and then maybe valves later, all four of them.

[NordieBoy]

Well, the part may have to come from UK, still waiting on prices here in New Zealand. I wasn't going that fast Nordie, just changing up to fourth.
I have e-mailed the Rotax Guru, Peter Knight. www.rotax.co.uk so will see what he says first, get a belt first and then maybe valves later, all four of them.

Only took a week to get bits from Bob Wright Motors in Weston.

[Waihou Thumper]

This is the reply I got from Peter Knight.

Hello Mark,

Timing Belt is £19.95 plus 'shipping'...

Parts list in attachment....2 parts......

Piston & Valves are intended not to 'collide' when bet 'fails'...

6k or 12 months is belt period......

The interesting piece is what he said about the piton and valves. He knows his stuff, 'The Rotax-Man' Peter Knight who for many years (21 years at the last count) has been associated with the 'Renowned' range of motors from the Austrian ROTAX factory based at Gunskirchen in Upper Austria.So, I will order two belts and go by the 12 months/6000Km service schedule. He also sent me the parts diagram for the bike, that in itself is valuable.
Fingers crossed all will be well with the little aprilia.

[Waihou Thumper]

I e-mailed the owner, asked him about the mesh protection, if he has a template etc. Muffler looks good, as does the bash plate. These are the next little projects.

http://www.desertpistons.com/4stroke...reg/Tuareg.htm

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=514908 Just look at this guys stable of bikes

Hey, also KTM used the Rotax motor 1982 ish... before heading out and using the LC4, apparently the factory was just down the road. So the story goes in the thread.
Where is my NZKTM licence plate? Hmm

[dino3310]

[I]http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=514908 Just look at this guys stable of bikes

that XL600

[Waihou Thumper]

The aprilia has a timing belt. In-fact I bought two as the price was too good to miss. I was quoted approx $270 here in NZ, and landed to my house, I got two for $97....A huge difference. The Rotax man in the UK is bloody awesome, huge experience in motors. I will definitely be keeping his address in my links.On another note, another UK specialist has found a genuine bash plate and a headlight guard. The guards came in blue and green, a wire cage design.He has both of these but he hasn't given me a price. I think it may be too expensive for me to buy....I wonder if he will do hire purchase

[Waihou Thumper]

assembling the bike after fitting the timing belt. She popped into life first turn of the crank. Valves fine, all good. Great motors those Rotax The timing was way off and the bolt was loose on the crankcase shaft. Easy fix, cleaned her up, now I just have to wait three months for the Reg to come off hold....

[Eddieb]

No poppy uppy big pics?

[Waihou Thumper]

No poppy uppy big pics?

Had to go back to school on that one.... Done! Edited the ones above too.

[Waihou Thumper]

I had a little look on EBay and this dealer who happens to be in the UK has great access to brand new aprilia parts.
http://stores.ebay.com/aprilia-vecchio

He has some great parts for the Toureg should I require anything. Here is some of the stuff, as well as a wish list for a aprilia Caponard box. Prices aren't too bad even with the shipping.

[Waihou Thumper]

and some more....these could be adapted for any bike in-fact.

[warewolf]

now I just have to wait three months for the Reg to come off hold....

How long has it been on hold? For the first three months, you have to back-pay the rego to get it off hold which is a bit of a waste of money, but after that you can pay anytime to start the rego again immediately from that time... or so I thought.

Chap at work now only regos his road bike for the six warmer months; he's not that keen that he ever rode very much in winter anyway. The lousy amount of time I get to ride makes that probably a good idea, especially once I get the off-roader going again as that'll keep me riding during winter.