Anarchic Wild Child
Bullshit !!! I might be middle aged but I'm not fucken middle class ... just older and wiser ... and more aware of how my bullshit impacts on others ... Legal aid to fight speeding and parking tickets is fucken crazy shit ... and why our taxes are not going down ..Originally Posted by Usarka
What's your excuse ?
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
ArseBiscuit
Brain injury.
And take a deep breath because if you read the OP he only mentioned using legal aid for a theft charge, nothing said about legal aid for the speeding and parking.
Beating a theft charge is quite a valid use of legal aid in my opinion (especially if he was innocent which we don't know, but as it was a wheel clamp I'm ok with it either way). So on face value good on him.
Meh this is how mentals see the world
Anarchic Wild Child
Naa .. fuck it .. it's Friday afternoon and I can be as big a troll as I like ... I'll chill out about 30 seconds after the THC hits the system later tonight ...Brain injury.
And take a deep breath because if you read the OP he only mentioned using legal aid for a theft charge, nothing said about legal aid for the speeding and parking.
Beating a theft charge is quite a valid use of legal aid in my opinion (especially if he was innocent which we don't know, but as it was a wheel clamp I'm ok with it either way). So on face value good on him.
Meh this is how mentals see the world
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Recovered workaholic.
I'm happy to do that - it's not a game - it's justice. It sure as fuck beats the hell out of funding the underclass to breed too.
If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!
Forum whore
and how loudly would people yell if legal aid was not available for people to defend that "totally unfair"speeding ticket,just because there was a law preventing legal aid for traffic cases?
If you have a legal aid system,it must be available to all or its a waste of time having it
if the govt.cant afford the system,maybe it should be cancellled entirely?
i somehow doubt thats gonna happen...
"more than two strokes is masturbation"
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Highway Biker
sorry mate, but being caught once, possibly a scam, twice - kinda unlikely, three times and you've got to think "maybe it's me"Im quite happy for some of my money to go towards fighting scams & he should be teaching his kid NOT to be scammed I would, also its the Govt, P.I.G.s, legal system & REAL criminals that are sucking all good out of this country by the sounds of it he's trying to put some good back in it by fighting these scams.
Either that or he is the unluckiest road user in N.Z.
I'm just sick of hearing about waste of space ball bags trying any and every thing to get off a ticket/fine that in their opinion was wrong. Using legal aid is just the icing on the cake (which was stolen from the bakery down the road - aledgeadly)
on the up
Well, I call bullshit on all the people bagging him.
People are stating "do the crime, do the time." Well guys, news flash - speed is not a criminal offence, neither is parking.
They are infringements only, not crimes.
I fully agree that this petty bullshit like giving speeding tickets for a few kms over should be challenged to the utmost. If they want to "come down hard on speeders" then let them get their house COMPLETELY in order.
Otherwise, the rampant bureaucratic nonsense and spin "to save us from ourselves" will continue.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Hardcore Biker
But what he's doing just contributes to the bureaucratic nonsense and will just result in furthermore rules, regulations, petty officiousness and any remaining resemblance of human discretion being removed from the system. It also justifies the employment of more anally retentive bureaucrats to tighten up every little loophole, wasting even more of our money and god help anyone with an actual grievance or injustice....
Recovered workaholic.
So you're of the school of belief that says we should be meek and do nothing, keep our heads down and they'll leave us alone, not increase penalties and tighten loopholes? We shouldn't exploit loopholes while we can? Good luck with THAT!
If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!
Night rider
The OP said he is fighting the tickets, he didn't say he was guilty. There appears to be a concensus on here that merely getting a ticket is proof of guilt. I hope none of you ever get asked to serve on a jury.The OP may be able to dodge these but eventually the Laws of Karma are going to catch up with him and he may well just pay in another way
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Time to ride
Bogeyman
For criminal cases: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...DLM225527.html
Those rights don't exist for council and traffic infringements. Don't believe you can count on the assumption of innocence for protection in non-criminal legal dealings with those entities either.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Night rider
I wasn't talking about in court, I meant here on this forum.
Time to ride
Bogeyman
Have you seen any behaviour even vaguely resembling due process here before now?
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Rest In Peace
Much like on teletext today,a pipe master for Hastings(I think)pipe group couldn't give a breath test due to years playing pipes,the judge agreed with his thoughts,and reduced sentancing,but then why wasn't book chucked at 65yr old for failing to give blood sample,which was a charge.
I can't see the rationale of trying to outwit system at my cost for a speeding infringement (if say 5km over attitude of speeder to cop,has a lot to do if getting ticket)for 20km over,sure we all get pissed at being caught,but we know we are in territory of fine if caught come what may.
As for parking tickets I had one which was sent to court went from $12 - $70,because I never recieved the invoice,the window ticket wasn't present upon returning to car,the reminder never came etc.Rang council to ask a few questions,got fobbed off by "it's out of our hands as now justice dept"but lady did ring back to say copy was sent to xyz street,which we had shifted from 4 months earlier,checking land transport had my rego address correct from day or two after shift,seems a glitch,wrote letter and phoned fines dept and they said we'll take the court costs off if I could prove address was changed etc.And I knew I had over stayed meter and accepted the ticket for that.
Hello officer put it on my tab
Don't steal the government hates competition.
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