Has anyone been pulled up for a nice chat by the Police and ACC?

[shrub]

I was at a meeting yesterday with NZTA and Police and they're very proud of a new safety initiative with ACC whereby they're stopping motorcyclists to check the standard of our machines, WOF, rego, licenses etc. They are doing it all Feb and March in Canterbury because these are "high risk" months, and are convinced it will save our lives.

Very decent of them really, and I can't wait to have some nice Cuntstable (who has probably never ridden a bike) telling me what I should be doing, and who has no knowledge of my bike telling me whether it's safe to ride. I feel so happy and safe knowing this is happening, and I will no longer get pissed off at car drivers going through red lights, tailgating me or not paying attention when they drive because I'm safe now.

Hurrah!

[miloking]

Hey look its this thread again....

Welcome to the nanny police state brother....

[shrub]

Hey look its this thread again....

Welcome to the nanny police state brother....

I wondered whether it had been done before, but couldn't be arsed trolling through to find it, so apologies for recycling threads. Yeah, I love that our police want to devote time and energy to protect me from myself.

Pity that they didn't have time investigate my burglary 18 months ago, then late last year when i told them that my house was entered and my leather jacket stolen, and I knew who had the jacket, all they did was phone him up and tell him to return it. And a couple of weeks ago when my daughter had her phone stolen from her bag and the thief sent all kinds of sexually explicit texts from it they didn't have time to do anything, even when she found out who had it.

[red mermaid]

Yep, stopped by a police officer (who is a motorcyclist in his private life) checked my bike, given some freebies by another private motorcyclist who was there as part of the partnership and then sent on my way.

[Timmeh:P]

I know I am going to get s#$t for saying it... But... (rhetorical question)

How many people die during burglaries and how many people die on NZ roads?

There is some method behind the madness!

[Drew]

When Big Dave posted a thread, after he was invited to write a piece on this for the magazine I think he said that it was to be cops who were motocyclists that would be part of this initiative.

I still see it as a waste of time and money, and will achieve little.

A workshop with open invitation to bikers, to come up with and discuss our thoughts on safety might have been a good idea before implementing anything, but as Katman says, most bikers are not doing all they can now to be safe. So it occurs that it would only be more stuff we ignore.

There needs to be more personal responsibility on our part, and I think it should start being taught before we're allowed loose on the roads. The basic handling skills test is a joke, and defensive driving courses are too generic.

Don't anyone start spouting about track days either please, there is nothing to be learnt from doing the same shit we do now, just faster.

My two cents, prolly worth less to anyone else.

[oneofsix]

don't really care how good their intentions pretend to be I will be pissed off to be pulled over when doing nothing wrong for one of their "chats". The person has to be willing to listen for the talk to do any good sop this approach would be a multi-fail if tried on me, I wont want to listen at the time nor the next time I associate the advice with them.
Offer me a change to go of my own free will to a discussion then they will get listened to.

that's my 2c worth anyways.

[scumdog]

Waaa-fucking waa....ANOTHER KB waa-fest!

Enjoy!

[scumdog]

Very decent of them really, and I can't wait to have some nice Cuntstable (who has probably never ridden a bike) telling me what I should be doing,

Hurrah!

Shit, next thing some constable who has never beaten his wife will be telling somebody who has that they shouldn't...or something like that....

[buellbabe]

Don't forget your hi-vis jkt!

Then you will be damn near bullet proof!

[Paul in NZ]

Personally I think this is a great idea! In fact we shouldnt stop at bikers... We should get the ambos to park up outside fast food joints and give everyone a health check before they go in - bust any fatties into a 28 day impound - costs too much to sort out the heart attacks later. Same with bottle stores - get the sallies to check up on anyone going in, make sure their drinking survival skills are up to date... It goes on and on....

[imdying]

I wont want to listen at the time nor the next time I associate the advice with them.

It'll only be you losing out, you might as well hear what they have to say since they're stopping you anyway.

Being stopped at all might be a bit on the nose, but no reason to cut it off to spite yourself.

[Hellzie]

Very true that most people don't like to get told what to do, and most are likely to comply if it is their choice to do something of their own free will... BUT even if it only works on some, it is worth it .. (i.e. the fact that they hand out info about motorcycle safety, or tell people their light isn't bright enough, etc, etc)

Personally I don't have any issues being stopped by a cop for a routine check such as checking WOF, rego, whether I've been drink driving, etc as I'm not breaking the law. It takes a couple minutes of my time, and stops those that are breaking the law and endangering everyone else on the road.

The police are there to make the place safer for everyone, they use the resources where there is most risk (first and foremost to people's lives), and currently, too many people die on our roads, so that's where some of the focus is.

[pzkpfw]

I'm quite happy to be stopped for a breath test now and then, as I think it's worth it to help keep actual drunk drivers off the road.

This seems at least a little bit similar.

[oneofsix]

The police are there to make the place safer for everyone, they use the resources where there is most risk (first and foremost to people's lives), and currently, too many people die on our roads, so that's where some of the focus is.

I remember when I used to believe that. Most police join for that reason, some because they like the authority (see the bulling thread).
One person dying on the road is too many but the roads aren't where most preventable deaths occur. More commit suicide for example, but we aren't allowed to legally talk about that. The numbers of drownings are up there too, hard to tax, sorry fine, someone for not being able to swim.
Ask me first and I will come. Stop me for a 'chat' on my way home from a hard day or to a family crisis then don't complain when I byte your head off.