Who says adv bikes can't race...

**Padmei** · 19th February 2011, 10:09

No I'm against orienteering events due to the obvious (Ialwaysget fricking lost- and I have had a lot of experience doing & organising orienteering events etc).

I'm going for arrows & possibly a rollchart mappish thing. An easy to find circuit. That way it's about riding & having fun.

3 categories

liteweight powderpuff boys

Men & boys - one big bike one small

Granite men- 2 big bikes.

Prize for the heaviest duo.

I DONT want it to become a race for little bikes going really fast, but an opportunity for those with real adventure bikes to have fun & be able to laugh at themselves & others. I was intending it to be in the spirit of the video.

The whole idea of the two personteams is that when it comes to the knarly stuff team work & thinking will overcome the obstacles.

Also some guys with olderbikes don'treally wantto get them damaged due to replacement plastics etc so nana line would be a kinder option.

**NordieBoy** · 19th February 2011, 10:34

The nana lines would need signs saying "wait 5 minutes before proceeding"

A circuit up Ben Nevis would be do-able.

2 min start gaps between teams.

We could look at the tracks we've done up there on Google Earth and layout a track from that.

Staplegun, arrows...

We'll have to start planning

But I still like the 2 on 1, GPS orienteering idea too

**Phreaky Phil** · 19th February 2011, 11:01

If its a race, how are you going to sort all the usual BS involved with a competion event ? A Navigation event wouldn't require getting involved in that.
Have you ever looked at the ALCAN 5000 ?

**NordieBoy** · 19th February 2011, 11:42

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

If its a race, how are you going to sort all the usual BS involved with a competion event ? A Navigation event wouldn't require getting involved in that.
Have you ever looked at the ALCAN 5000 ?

Race?

No start or finish line, just a mustering area.
Navigation by arrows stapled to trees.

Al Can 5000?
Collecting beer cans just doesn't have the same appeal really.

**Padmei** · 19th February 2011, 11:42

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

If its a race, how are you going to sort all the usual BS involved with a competion event ? A Navigation event wouldn't require getting involved in that.
Have you ever looked at the ALCAN 5000 ?

Easy- it's not going to be a race - just a bunchof guys falling off bikes. grassroots.

**NordieBoy** · 19th February 2011, 11:56

Originally Posted by Padmei

Easy- it's not going to be a race - just a bunchof guys falling off bikes. grassroots.

Bloody grass roots

**cold comfort** · 20th February 2011, 14:52

excellent video-very entertaining. Always good to see "proper" riders falling off in the mud too.

**gav24** · 20th February 2011, 20:28

How about a roll chart route - grass roots, DIY, lo-tech and cheap.
In some fun enduro's I 've ridden they've used the "poker hand" method to avoid racing:- at each checkpoint you randomly select a playing card. At the end of the event the rider/team with the best hand wins. No special tests needed, just need to be 'on time' between the checks. Small bikes have tight times, big bikes are given more time.
Another option is to make the times between checks unimportant - then add in challenges at 2 or 3 points along the way to score the results for those that care ie. a slow bike race, or weaving in and out of cones, or even a mini mx type special test.
On the subject of GPS - and not this thread

- have any of you guys tried geocaching, seems to be made for adv biking and gps farkles...

**pete376403** · 20th February 2011, 20:43

QUOTE=Padmei;1129990961]Easy- it's not going to be a race - just a bunch of guys falling off bikes. grassroots.[/QUOTE]

More than one bike? It's going to turn into a race. Thats the way it is.

**NordieBoy** · 20th February 2011, 20:47

Originally Posted by gav24

How about a roll chart route - grass roots, DIY, lo-tech and cheap.
In some fun enduro's I 've ridden they've used the "poker hand" method to avoid racing:- at each checkpoint you randomly select a playing card. At the end of the event the rider/team with the best hand wins. No special tests needed, just need to be 'on time' between the checks. Small bikes have tight times, big bikes are given more time.

Too much work

Originally Posted by gav24

On the subject of GPS - and not this thread

- have any of you guys tried geocaching, seems to be made for adv biking and gps farkles...

I've found 38 since signing up in 2003

Back then there were about 30 caches in the whole top of the south.
Now there are well over 300 in the Nelson area alone.

**NordieBoy** · 20th February 2011, 20:50

Originally Posted by pete376403

More than one bike? It's going to turn into a race. Thats the way it is.

I have a plan.
Coffee cart half way.

**Woodman** · 20th February 2011, 21:02

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

I have a plan.
Coffee cart half way.

Just what we need to avoid racing. Coffee, that'll work.

KISS pricipal is best, not too complicated, but just some very challenging sections, e.g. nigh on impossible. We can bench race afterwards down t pub.

**Padmei** · 20th February 2011, 21:39

Nordie& I have been talking about possible sites. There will prob be short highway bits in the middle to link up tracks etc.

It'll be fun. Prob more fun for us to organise than you guys riding but hey...

I'll start looking for unofficial sponsors for prizes.

St Vincent de Paul make very nice winners jackets

**NordieBoy** · 20th February 2011, 21:48

For the first one, it looks like it'd be a 2 person team multi-lap circuit with no dead ends and arrows marking the course.
Out Mt Duppa or Wairoa Gorge way.

The second one will be 2-2 and 2-1 person-bike teams with gps waypoints, orienteering style. Dead ends and maybe even river crossings, highway transport sections and everything.
Out Mt Duppa way.