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    Passed 6F but still no licence! What's your advice?

    I recently got my Raro licence in Jan while on holiday there and wanted to see if I could convert it to a NZ full therefore bypassing the restricted waiting time. Been on my learners for 4 years and in that time have been riding almost everyday (approx 50000km)

    Asked NZTA over phone as well as AA centre prior to applying for this - both said as long as you pass full practical should be fine.

    Went for my full test yesterday - which I passed without any concern however the testing officer and branch manager both seemed suspicious and called up NZTA again - so now even though they have passed me (and given me written proof) - my licence will not be released until I obtain a Police confirmation of licence and what I did to obtain this!

    Called up the appropriate person in Raro police station - they did not seem interested in doing so - stating they usually will not write these letters for overseas drivers. I went through the usual tourist route and was observed riding at a bike hire place rather than the police station.

    After calling up NZTA (again) I asked them what will happen if I cannot get this letter (considering I have met the 6F standard) and they did not even want to go there

    I will attempt to get this letter from the Raro Police however what can/should I do if I can't?

    Any advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidzstylez View Post
    I recently got my Raro licence in Jan while on holiday there and wanted to see if I could convert it to a NZ full therefore bypassing the restricted waiting time. Been on my learners for 4 years and in that time have been riding almost everyday (approx 50000km)

    Asked NZTA over phone as well as AA centre prior to applying for this - both said as long as you pass full practical should be fine.

    Went for my full test yesterday - which I passed without any concern however the testing officer and branch manager both seemed suspicious and called up NZTA again - so now even though they have passed me (and given me written proof) - my licence will not be released until I obtain a Police confirmation of licence and what I did to obtain this!

    Called up the appropriate person in Raro police station - they did not seem interested in doing so - stating they usually will not write these letters for overseas drivers. I went through the usual tourist route and was observed riding at a bike hire place rather than the police station.

    After calling up NZTA (again) I asked them what will happen if I cannot get this letter (considering I have met the 6F standard) and they did not even want to go there

    I will attempt to get this letter from the Raro Police however what can/should I do if I can't?

    Any advice?
    you went for your full test and passed? so whats the fucking problem?

    have you asked them what they want you to do as an alternative to passing your full license test?

    get a lawyer.

    bearing in mind you are trying to bypass the system. why did you not get a license here considering you have done 50,000 km?

    maybe you should suck it up and do what every other NZer has to do to get a license. as much as we all slag them off the system is there for a reason and i am glad that licenses don't come in ricies packets.

    i am in two minds about this but just fucking get over it and you really should have been through the system as required in the first place just like everyone else.
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    So do i understand this right, they took your money, made you take a time from your day to ride around for an hour...then said you passed ok. And now they are asking for some letter from god knows where, they didnt tell you about before you sat the practical test????

    As mentioned before get advice from lawyer as it seems to me that AA is trying to fuck you over on this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by miloking View Post
    So do i understand this right, they took your money, made you take a time from your day to ride around for an hour...then said you passed ok. And now they are asking for some letter from god knows where, they didnt tell you about before you sat the practical test????

    As mentioned before get advice from lawyer as it seems to me that AA is trying to fuck you over on this....
    you should listen to MK, he is an expert on these things.
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    Perhaps you missed the subtle request for a bribe ?
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    I think if you get your licence they will be setting a dangerous precedent, you have the experience as well but many people coming back from Raro have a few weeks on a moped, they get lucky and pass the full test and off they go... Nah don't seem right to me...
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    Just get on Word and make yourself a letter from the Raro police. Easy.

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    Seems off, but bucking the system...

    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    well, that'yll teach ya then for trying to take a shortcut, start all over

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    so basically you still got a restricted license cos yoa havent done ya six months....?

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    So ... why did you not sit the restricted / full licence sooner ... ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidzstylez View Post
    Went for my full test yesterday - which I passed without any concern however the testing officer and branch manager both seemed suspicious and called up NZTA again - so now even though they have passed me (and given me written proof)
    If you have the written proof, well, you have the written proof.

    Also they made you a promise (hopefully in writing), so promissory estoppel may apply - from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estoppel

    Simply put, promissory estoppel has four necessary elements which the plaintiff must prove:

    1.) there was a promise (pass this test and you get your 6F)
    2.) that was reasonably relied upon
    3.) resulting legal detriment to the promisee
    4.) justice requires enforcement of the promise

    If it were me, I'd remind them of the above and that any other conditions were at least required to be disclosed and then provide an address to mail the license, and then I would go about my business as usual.

    In the end, it comes back to how much you are prepared to stand up to them.
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    sorry dude, been down this track. They are wise to it. They know that the Raro test is a matter of "pay the cash" and ride around the block. It has been flagged at NZTA and LTSA. You cant get away with it, I tried and had to do the whole thing. Just sit it and be legal like I had to.

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    PS, in most cases, they allow it from other countries, but not Raro. I tried and their test is not sufficient. You have to do the NZ one......sorry.....

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    PPS, you didnt pass your 6F, you passed a Raro licence, and this has been identified by NZ authotities as a bull shit test. Get your NZ licence like everyone else had to.

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