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    Shit! That was lucky I didn't get trapped in it. How did I miss it I wonder, I was all around Albany today.

    Just wondering, providing you were looking ahead, was there sufficient space to turn around or did they trap people around a sharp corner or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    YNo high viz (minus 3) and jeans instead of "proper" trousers (minus 1).
    Clowns.

    They gonna put hi-vis vests on trains? Plenty cagers hit them, and they're running on fixed rails with plenty of warning signs on the road approaches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
    I wonder if there is any stats or survey figures to back this up. If not then a 3/21 for not having Hi Viz is pretty unfair and wont actually do the ACC any favours from bikers IMHO.
    Remember the stat's used to justify raising the registration costs for bikes? It's carefully designed surveys like this that produce 'em.

    The very best thing the bike safety quango thingo dudes could spend our money on is developing a set of surveys aimed at collecting data demonstrating that the whole grubby business is a jack-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeocen View Post
    So you get waved over by the police, they check your bike - that's all good.
    But then you're ushered towards an ACC man and rated on your dress code? Are you fucking kidding me?

    At that point can you decline and ride off? That is some seriously weak shit.
    AFAIK, the Police man didn't check my bike at all (well, he checked it out after the fact) unless he did it while I was parking up.

    Mr ACC "rated" my bike (WOF, Reg, headlight etc) and then rated my gear. The total (bike & gear) was out of 21.

    I don't know what the law would be about riding off - I am but a poor bush lawyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeocen View Post
    So you get waved over by the police, they check your bike - that's all good.
    But then you're ushered towards an ACC man and rated on your dress code? Are you fucking kidding me?

    At that point can you decline and ride off? That is some seriously weak shit.
    You do have to stop for plod, why you have to stop to be "rated" on what you are wearing is beyond me and frankly I would not be sticking around for that. If I had wanted to enter NZ's next "top safety gear wearing model" then fair enough. To stop me to "assess" what I am wearing earns a great big from me.

    Plod can stop me and ticket me for not wearing a helemt (unlikely), no one else can detain me to check my clothing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Remember the stat's used to justify raising the registration costs for bikes? It's carefully designed surveys like this that produce 'em.

    The very best thing the bike safety quango thingo dudes could spend our money on is developing a set of surveys aimed at collecting data demonstrating that the whole grubby business is a jack-up.
    >rant... In fact I reckon some cleaver dickie dude in here should publish a 21 point questionnaire designed to evaluate the safety merits of fuckwit ACC lackeys found lurking on the roadside.

    Any takers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post

    Plod can stop me and ticket me for not wearing a helemt (unlikely), no one else can detain me to check my clothing out.

    Attitude is what it is all about.
    Plod are doing the stopping, presumably because some clipboard jockey trying to wave people over would be less effective than an adequate similie....

    They are doing licence checks too - and the 30 seconds to talk to an ACC monkey didn't really hurt in the scheme of things.

    Perhaps 50,000 motorcyclists telling said ACC monkeys that high-vis wont do shit, and that if they want to do something, they should teach cagers to drive might perhaps sink in.
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    The police are allowed to pull a motorist over for a chat, but ACC can get fucked. Absolutely no mandate there.

    Worth riding around the block and coming back stark bollock naked, apart from a helmet, to get a new "point score" record with the morons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Worth riding around the block and coming back stark bollock naked, apart from a helmet, to get a new "point score" record with the morons.
    No, it isn't.

    It really, really isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeocen View Post
    [....] then you're ushered towards an ACC man and rated on your dress code? Are you fucking kidding me? At that point can you decline and ride off? That is some seriously weak shit.
    You can decline and ride off at the first bit too, but yeah I would have passed all the gear questions and then rapidly lost all my carefully-earned points at the attitude test.

    Why don't people feel angry at ACC ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    No, it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The police are allowed to pull a motorist over for a chat, but ACC can get fucked. Absolutely no mandate there.

    Worth riding around the block and coming back stark bollock naked, apart from a helmet, to get a new "point score" record with the morons.
    Agree! Though I draw the line at nudey rudey riding myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    No, it isn't.

    It really, really isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Remember the stat's used to justify raising the registration costs for bikes? It's carefully designed surveys like this that produce 'em.

    The very best thing the bike safety quango thingo dudes could spend our money on is developing a set of surveys aimed at collecting data demonstrating that the whole grubby business is a jack-up.
    I wonder if the information gathered is to be used as a baseline for the new risk assessment for the ACC's levy calculations coming in on April 1st.

    3 points off for hi-viz v's 1 point for jeans... i'd be worried if that's what the info is being used for
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    I've had a read of three reports on the high vis, one being done in NZ (auckland region) and one done by MAIDS.

    The NZ one attributed a 37% lower risk to riders wearing high vis, however their study did not (as far as I can tell) take into account multiple factors, like those who wear high vis might also be more likely to have headlights on, brightly colored bikes, and ride more defensively.

    The MAIDS one, is 179 goddamn pages long doesn't get into the risk decrease of various clothing types as far as I can tell (I'll have a better look at some point though, as it's an interesting read anyway). The breakdown they give is of whether the clothing worn by rider in an accident made them more or less visible, but that doesn't give any indication as to how likely high vis wearers are to be in an accident. They did go into bike color in the same way as the NZ report though (found color of bike is up to fuck all for risk), so I would expect them to cover clothing in the same way somewhere....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    You can decline and ride off at the first bit too,
    Go on then. Decline to pull over when directed to by a Police officer.

    Why don't people feel angry at ACC ?
    Angry at ACC is one thing.

    Angry at the bloke trying to earn a living by doing his master's bidding of a morning is completely another. It's like yelling at the service station people because of the pricing.....
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