Speed camera photo with another vehicle in it. Can I get off?

[FJRider]

Hey I told you my middle names were "Pedantic Prick"

From the "horse's mouth" ...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...jectid=1843055

[cheshirecat]

......but without public acceptance every photo with another car in it would be challenged,"

interesting

[steve_t]

From the "horse's mouth" ...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...jectid=1843055

Over $38m a year in speed camera revenue

[Mully]

My understanding was they didn't issue a ticket where there were two vehicles in frame.

Clearly my information is wrong, and whoever gave me said information needs a beating.....

Wait:

Police do not issue tickets if the photos can be disputed because of clarity, obstruction or if more than one vehicle is in the picture.

Post up the pic, OP.

[hellokitty]

when I queried my ticket as here were 2 other cars in the picture, I was told they have a special tracking device that tracks each lane and therefore can tell which car is speeding... blah blah really? I have no idea if this is true

[Mully]

*Snort*

Mr Macdonald said he did the review because speed cameras had the potential to save lives and financial costs.

It acknowledges the common view that revenue collection is an objective of the cameras but says "there is no evidence to support this view"

Riiiiiiiight.

Get rid of speed camera fines and make it speed camera demerits then, arseholes.

[HQfiend]

Contest it! They have probably sent a ticket to the car in the photo too hoping that either 1 or both of you will pay up!
Contest using the +/- 15% speedo error (WOF requirements) defence as a back up (if needed) to the 2 cars in the picture ploy.
30 bucks is 30 bucks these days (2.5 hours work for most after tax). You could buy 3.5 blocks of butter in Rangiora with that $30!

[ukusa]

when I queried my ticket as here were 2 other cars in the picture, I was told they have a special tracking device that tracks each lane and therefore can tell which car is speeding... blah blah really? I have no idea if this is true

I was under the impression that fixed speed cameras are triggered from a strip in the road, therefore they could tell which lane triggered it.

[jimbo600]

"Speed cameras acted as a deterrent at accident black spots and reduced the incidence of reoffending if drivers were sent a notice."

Accident black spots?? Fuck off. Funny how these "Black Spots" are always at the bottom of a hill or on a straight piece of road.

Just wait till we get average speed cameras. Man I'm glad I flicked the road bike and went off road.

[rastuscat]

Fixed cameras can differentiate between lanes.

Mobile cameras can differentiate between traffic travelling in different directions.

Yawn.

[geoffm]

Fixed cameras can differentiate between lanes.

Mobile cameras can differentiate between traffic travelling in different directions.

Yawn.

Yup, cast your mind back to 5th form physics - thanks to the Doppler Shift, radar will give a direction of travel, but can't differentiate between multiple vehicles in the same direction, although many cops with mobile radar in the car believe it can... Basic science is not a prerequisite for the coppers.
If the other car was going in the opposite direction to you, tough luck.

[oldrider]

Contest it ... too much garbage surrounding speed camera warfare ... lacks integrity IMHO!

Police are embarrassing themselves over this subject and their duplicitous behaviour IMHO!

We have some very good and dedicated police officers, this shit denigrates their good work! (again this is only MHO)

[Exzackery]

I wonder if a GPS logger is court admissible. I always have one running and it is used by the racing teams of the planet. I would imagine it would be far more accurate than a beam on your headlight… that is prolly provable too

[javawocky]

Hey I told you my middle names were "Pedantic Prick"

Contest it, $30 might not be worth the time and effort, but think of all the entertainment you are going to get out of them for that $30. All you need are a few cleverly crafted letters and marker pen lines on their shoddy picture and at the end of it you will have a great story to tell at the local pub, even if you don't get off.

They got $38mil income, why not let them work for their $30!

[grantnz]

Contest it ... too much garbage surrounding speed camera warfare ... lacks integrity IMHO!

Police are embarrassing themselves over this subject and their duplicitous behaviour IMHO!

We have some very good and dedicated police officers, this shit denigrates their good work! (again this is only MHO)

Agreed, dispute it. If the fine is only $30 all the more reason to dispute it. Someone in Traffic Control will finally figure out it will cost them more to get the $30.00 than what it is worth and tear up the ticket.
Got off one myself a few years back,( camera photo) all it took was writing a letter every time I got one from them. 6 letters over 14 months and they gave up.