Speed camera photo with another vehicle in it. Can I get off?

[steve_t]

how did they know where to post the ticket if the number plate can't be read?

Banditbandit didn't say the plate can't be read. He said "if YOU can't read the number plate [on the plain paper photo print], YOU can't be sure it's you..."

Back to my earlier post, I'm sure the photo when viewed on a computer monitor or even printed on photo paper shows the licence plate clear as day

[scumdog]

Are they still gonna claim its not about revenue gathering

So everybody agrees it's only the fines that are wrong and there's nothing wrong with the speed cameras per se - and if it was (as mentioned elsewhere) a case of only demerits being issued and no fine everybody would live happily ever after??

[FJRider]

Definitely contest on the grounds you can't see your plate number in the photo. It's just due diligence on your part.

So how did they get his address ... to send him the bloody ticket ... ???

Lucky Guess ... ???

[CookMySock]

So everybody agrees it's only the fines that are wrong and there's nothing wrong with the speed cameras per se - and if it was (as mentioned elsewhere) a case of only demerits being issued and no fine everybody would live happily ever after??

Heh, no.

If the king doesn't have a proper income he should go get one and stop harassing his er, loyal subjects about it, coz its starting to fuck them off and soon they wont wear it any more. Capice?

[Gubb]

Heh, no.

If the king doesn't have a proper income he should go get one and stop harassing his er, loyal subjects about it, coz its starting to fuck them off and soon they wont wear it any more. Capice?

You gonna go International again?

[MSTRS:Me]

You gonna go International again?

I hope so...he was gone for aaaaages.
It was nice.

[R-Soul]

how did they know where to post the ticket if the number plate can't be read?

Thahts why I asked if they posted infringement notices to all bikes having a remotely similar plate..

[C.Linnell]

So how did they get his address ... to send him the bloody ticket ... ???

Lucky Guess ... ???

Obviously, but as has been mentioned, if he can't read it, then he can't be sure it's him, and he needs to be sure. There's little the OP can do here except contest on identity grounds (perhaps the plate is really fuzzy and they just picked the one it looked closest to).

If that fails, OP could contest on technical grounds (but are we really sure the camera can't spot that speed difference?)

[FJRider]

Obviously, but as has been mentioned, if he can't read it, then he can't be sure it's him, and he needs to be sure. There's little the OP can do here except contest on identity grounds (perhaps the plate is really fuzzy and they just picked the one it looked closest to).

If that fails, OP could contest on technical grounds (but are we really sure the camera can't spot that speed difference?)

Obviously ... ??? Can't be sure ... ??? So he can't remember where he was a few weeks previous ... ??? and especially can't remember if he was in the area / at the time stated on the original ticket ... ??? and... the "person" on the bike "just happens" to be wearing the same riding gear the OP has ... (OK coincidence ... right ... ???)

If the OP "can't" remember any / ALL of that ... he shouldn't be on the road ... in control of a bike OR in control of a car ...

Personally ... in MY opinion ... Your theory lacks (a LOT of)credibility ....

[Mully]

I don't know why everyone is hung up on the photo quality. Old Steve clearly said the quality was poor and it was printed on plain paper - not photo paper.

I'd suggest it's dangerous to contest based on that, because all the PIB need to do is come back with a clearer image. Someone read it to get his rego number.

For one thing, I'd be denying that I was speeding and contesting based on the other vehicle in the picture.

Of course, if I looked at it honestly and I was guilty, I'd pay the fine and shut up.

[Bliksem]

Ask ex girl friend / boss to take take bike for a spin past camera again, might have to do 91k's to trigger it

Request the photo of the second ticket, if its still fuzzy, at least you've got someone to blame.

[FJRider]

Of course, if I looked at it honestly and I was guilty, I'd pay the fine and shut up.

NOWHERE in the thread does the OP ... DENY it was him in the photo ... HE looked at it "honestly" ... and still expects to get out of the ticket ...

[Mully]

NOWHERE in the thread does the OP ... DENY it was him in the photo ... HE looked at it "honestly" ... and still expects to get out of the ticket ...

Ahh. Tis the KB way

[Clockwork]

For 85 in an 80kph area with permitted speedometer tolerances greater than the Paula Roses's arbitrary and temporary new tolerance limits, I'd be looking to get off it too.

[Old Steve]

Just to clear up a couple of things.

I'm angry over the expectation that I should ride around with my eyes glued on my speedo so that I don't go 5 km/hr over the posted limit. I thought the Police were interested in road safety. Obviouly not, just interested in revenue. This was a holiday area, cars parked on the roadside, families on the beach, possibly kids running across the road from houses on the left to the lake, so I was watching out for hazards and not staring blankly at my speedo to stay within 4 km/hr of the posted speed. And yes, I do think 80 km/hr was a safe speed through this area, obviously those who set the road speed limits think so too.

The photo doesn't allow me to see the rego plate because of poor printing quality and the paper on which it is printed, but the bike is definitely out of focus. I presume the Police have a 5Gb, 1000x600 mm image on their computer which allowed them to read the rego plate.

On the information bar at the top of the photo, the speed reads just "85 km/hr", no +ve or -ve. There is an "away/towards" entry, this photo has "away", after the speed entry.