2 speeding tickets in 2 minutes

**mattd** · 23rd June 2005, 13:03

ok i was just wondering about a couple of speeding tickets i got this morn. apperently the cop was following me down 1 road onto another with his lights on, i couldnt really see him in my mirrors, then he put his siren on just as i was turning into another street (stupid time for him to distract me with that mid-corner). he then proceeded to issue 2 tickets becuase it was 2 different roads. whats with that? i would think it would be the same offence = 1 ticket? does this sound right to u guys?

**Odin** · 23rd June 2005, 13:07

It dosent sound right to me but then again that dosen't meen it isen't. You must have really stepped on that guy's toe's ! was it so early that he hden't had a cup of coffee ?

**Oakie** · 23rd June 2005, 13:11

Sounds screwy to me.
The next step along that track would be to say that you were speeding along the first 10 metres of the road .. so a ticket for that ... along the second 10 metres so a ticket for that ... along the third 10 metres so another ticket for that... and so on.
I guess he's saying you broke the law ... you came back within the law ... and then you broke the law again. Still ... if you go before court for having a punch up you don't get fined for each punch do you?
I'd dispute it for sure.

**madboy** · 23rd June 2005, 13:12

Sounds like someone eager to do their bit for increasing the public opinion of the police. One ticket, fair enough, but two? Wanker.

**Lou Girardin** · 23rd June 2005, 13:14

Good to see a new approach to filling the quota. Tosser.

It was one speed check so there should be one ticket. Unless there were two different speed zones. It doesn't even sound like he had a speed check in the second road if he hit the lights and flashers mid-corner.
Query it at the Infringement bureau, ask them if they'd like Fair Go informed.
And they wonder why they're disliked.

**onearmedbandit** · 23rd June 2005, 13:17

Fucking retarded. Good way to boost the public image. Even if it is technically correct, thats just stupid.

**Biff** · 23rd June 2005, 13:20

Sounds like this ahole hasn't had his leg over recently.

Let's hope one our resident cops stops by here shortly for some advice.
The only advice I can give is don't pay either ticket for the time being. Write a letter stating telling the authorties exactly what happened.

**mattd** · 23rd June 2005, 13:21

yeah im sweet with paying the speeding ticket, just not 2. he got me at 68 on the second rd but did not get a speed on the first, so i got to go to court for that one now. got an appointment with a lawyer next wensday. so we'll see what he says about the situation.

**mattd** · 23rd June 2005, 13:25

also i called the Infringement bureau, the opperater was good but i dont think she was that well informed so she transfered me to an officer who was rude and sounded very uniterested in answering my inquiry, so i just hung up on the prick, no use wasting my time on him.

**spudchucka** · 23rd June 2005, 13:39

I'm of two minds.

1: There are two separate offences if they occurred at different times and at different places, (roads). In that respect I believe that the issuing of two tickets would be justifiable.

2: In the interest of fairness I think this sucks. This IS the sort of shit that gives Lou and his buddies something to berate us over. On the face of it the cop has been unreasonable, thats my opinion, other cops may think otherwise.

Your options really are as follows;

1: Pay up and take it on the chin.

2: Write a detailed and reasoned letter to the Infringment Buraeu explaining the circumstances, highlighting the unreasonable nature of the second ticket. Be professional, don't be abusive or sarcastic.

3: Don't pay and defend both tickets in Court. You may be lucky and find a Judge / JP that has some sympathy for your plight. In all likelyhood you would still be convited of the first offence, so be prepared for that outcome. Also if you go to Court you should be aware that, worst case scenario, you may be convicted of both offences and end up with higher fines and have to pay court costs on top.

**spudchucka** · 23rd June 2005, 13:40

Originally Posted by mattd

also i called the Infringement bureau, the opperater was good but i dont think she was that well informed so she transfered me to an officer who was rude and sounded very uniterested in answering my inquiry, so i just hung up on the prick, no use wasting my time on him.

Write a letter.

**mattd** · 23rd June 2005, 13:49

Originally Posted by spudchucka

2: Write a detailed and reasoned letter to the Infringment Buraeu explaining the circumstances, highlighting the unreasonable nature of the second ticket. Be professional, don't be abusive or sarcastic.

3: Don't pay and defend both tickets in Court. You may be lucky and find a Judge / JP that has some sympathy for your plight. In all likelyhood you would still be convited of the first offence, so be prepared for that outcome. Also if you go to Court you should be aware that, worst case scenario, you may be convicted of both offences and end up with higher fines and have to pay court costs on top.

yeah i have to go to court for the first ticket, but that would be after the 28 days given to pay the 2nd ticket wouldn't it? so how do i get around protesting the 2 tickets when i more than likely have to pay one before the court date?

so i think i'll try and take option 2, the Infringement bureau should have all the information on their end right? i just need to give them the ticket numbers (or however they identify them) and my side of the story and they will sort it out (hopefully to my favor)?

thanks for your help spudchucka

**spudchucka** · 23rd June 2005, 13:57

Originally Posted by mattd

yeah i have to go to court for the first ticket, but that would be after the 28 days given to pay the 2nd ticket wouldn't it? so how do i get around protesting the 2 tickets when i more than likely have to pay one before the court date?

so i think i'll try and take option 2, the Infringement bureau should have all the information on their end right? i just need to give them the ticket numbers (or however they identify them) and my side of the story and they will sort it out (hopefully to my favor)?

thanks for your help spudchucka

Send photo copies of the actual tickets with your letter.

In terms of Court, if you decide to defend the tickets, you simply don't pay the ticket and don't pay the reminder then it will automatically fall into the jurisdiction of the courts. You will receive a summons to come to court on a specific date.

Write to the bureau as soon as possible, their reply may help you decide whether to defend both tickets or just the second. Either way I wouldn't be paying any money until I have tried my best with the bureau. Then your options would be either pay both, pay the first and defend the second or defend both tickets.

What sort of speeds are we talking here, (don't post exact speeds if you aren't comfortable doing so)?