fuck art

[scumdog]

YEAH IT IS , ITS CALLED OUTSIDER ART , IT CAN BE ART FROM A CHILD AN AUTISTIC PERSON OR IN YOUR CASE A MENTAL PATIENT, JUST KIDDING THAT WAS ON THE SIMPSONS

Yeah, and look what happened to Homer when HE got too smart-arsed about 'outsider art' - and it was only his own money he lost!!

[Ixion]

Something is seriously wrong with me. I find myself increasingly either agreeing with or being amused by Winja's posts. Please tell me it's not true.
...

And why should you not.

As Mr WINJA observed a while ago, KiwiBiker has become more tolerant. And tolerance breeds tolerance.

[WINJA]

And why should you not.

As Mr WINJA observed a while ago, KiwiBiker has become more tolerant. And tolerance breeds tolerance.

CAUSE IT DOES THATS WHY IF SCUMMY AND SPUD WERE GETTING A BEATING IN THE PAST ID LAUGH COS THERE PIGS , BUT NOW ID JUMP IN AND HELP THOSE 2 OUT.
BUT NOT ZED IF ZED WAS KNOCKED OUT ID STEAL HIS WALLET, PULL DOWN HIS PANTS AND PUSH A CONDOM UP HIS ARSE WITH A STICK THEN REMOVE THE STICK

[surfchick]

AND FUCK ET AL , WHAT A WASTE OF MY MONEY, THATS NOT ART ITS RUBBISH, I HOPE THAT FUCKER DIES A HORRIBLE DEATH FOR RIPPING US OFF , NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR HOSPITALS NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR POLICE NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR ROADS BUT PLENTY FOR THIS SO CALLED ART , THE NEW YORK ART CENTER BOUGHT A BRAND NEW MV AUGUSTA F4 AND PUT THAT ON DISPLAY AND IT COST ABOUT 5% OF THAT LATEST INSTALLATION . WE COULD HAVE JUST SENT THE BRITTEN , NOW THATS ART

A BIG BULLSHIT TO THAT WINJA. ET AL's work has kiwibiker punters like you riled and me riled back- it's doing its job- creating conversation. NZ has been radically underrepresented at the venice biennale for years- art work that no-one will remember-but ET Al's work has already got rave reviews from the UK, the US and europe. It's about time we had someone of the calibre of ET AL in venice. ET AL's art has been giving people the slip for years- YEARS. TO put her work in context there was a european artist asked to represent his country at Venice and he sold his place for a small sum of money and that buyer represented. THERE IS A PRECIDENT FOR THIS in the history of conceptual art.

The ET AL art practice in totally informed, every move deliberate-and every press event-CALCULATED. That poor people hospital rant you gave is the way national ended up removing public funding from all art and creative industries that are non-commercial. It is extremely important this work of ET AL's get funding and support. Don't go ripping money off artists to feed poor people-they are already poor enough and ET AL did 15 years as an underfunded, totally poor artist-outside the dealer gallery stucture. And before you get stuck into all artists- just don't. Other countries like Ireland give artists tax breaks etc and their investment has paid off in their art and film industry.

ET Al's work has all the spunk, grit and friek-out factor art needs to be memorable (not to mention it is actulally quite aesthetic in a grey, machine, wire fence kind of way)- you got to remember that venice has hundreds of art exhibitions in hundreds of locations across the city during this biennale and to rise above the din is a feat in and of itself.

what is wrong with NZ being visible?

[Ixion]

CAUSE IT DOES THATS WHY IF SCUMMY AND SPUD WERE GETTING A BEATING IN THE PAST ID LAUGH COS THERE PIGS , BUT NOW ID JUMP IN AND HELP THOSE 2 OUT.
BUT NOT ZED IF ZED WAS KNOCKED OUT ID STEAL HIS WALLET, PULL DOWN HIS PANTS AND PUSH A CONDOM UP HIS ARSE WITH A STICK THEN REMOVE THE STICK

Why remove the stick ? I ask only out of academic interest ?

[surfchick]

which it clearly is.
I know that, being a dumb-arse tradesman, if I understood it then by definition it wouldn't be any good.
I understand that good art isn't made for the likes of me.

naar really good art gives us all the slip- and then the punch- the best of all art is the WTF kind

[surfchick]

alright, so curious george is either an artist, an art history major or...mm an artist?

For further reading see:
http://www.thebigidea.co.nz/article....thread&order=0
http://www.creativenz.govt.nz/venice...FAQ/index.html

[WINJA]

Why remove the stick ? I ask only out of academic interest ?

WELL Im NOT PUSHING IT UP THERE WITH MY COCK , SO IF I USE A STICK AND REMOVE IT HE WONT GO TO THE COPS CAUSE HE THINKS HES BEEN BUTT FUCKED WHICH MEANS I KEEP THE WALLET AND HE SAVES EMBARESSMENT

[Hitcher]

And why should you not.

As Mr WINJA observed a while ago, KiwiBiker has become more tolerant. And tolerance breeds tolerance.

I am still intolerant of the whole caps-lock thingee...

[Ixion]

WELL Im NOT PUSHING IT UP THERE WITH MY COCK , SO IF I USE A STICK AND REMOVE IT HE WONT GO TO THE COPS CAUSE HE THINKS HES BEEN BUTT FUCKED WHICH MEANS I KEEP THE WALLET AND HE SAVES EMBARESSMENT

You are very thoughtful. But if you remove the stick is there not a risk that he will not realise anything at all has happened ?

[WINJA]

You are very thoughtful. But if you remove the stick is there not a risk that he will not realise anything at all has happened ?

ARE YOU SAYING ZED USUALLY HAS A CONDOM HALF HANGING OUT HIS ARSE FREQUENTLY ,CAUSE IF ITS TRUE IM NOT SUPRISED HES A SAUSAGE SMUGLER

[WINJA]

I am still intolerant of the whole caps-lock thingee...

TOUGH SHIT, DID YOU NOTE MORE PEOPLE ARE USING CAPS NOW

[Ixion]

ARE YOU SAYING ZED USUALLY HAS A CONDOM HALF HANGING OUT HIS ARSE FREQUENTLY ,CAUSE IF ITS TRUE IM NOT SUPRISED HES A SAUSAGE SMUGLER

Uh, I have absolutely no idea of the state of Mr Zed's arse, and deparately want to retain that state of blessed ignorance.

[Hitcher]

TOUGH SHIT, DID YOU NOTE MORE PEOPLE ARE USING CAPS NOW

No. But then again I have well corrected eyesight (presuming that you are referring to the same sort of caps that I am...).

[Lou Girardin]

A BIG BULLSHIT TO THAT WINJA. ET AL's work has kiwibiker punters like you riled and me riled back- it's doing its job- creating conversation. NZ has been radically underrepresented at the venice biennale for years- art work that no-one will remember-but ET Al's work has already got rave reviews from the UK, the US and europe. It's about time we had someone of the calibre of ET AL in venice. ET AL's art has been giving people the slip for years- YEARS. TO put her work in context there was a european artist asked to represent his country at Venice and he sold his place for a small sum of money and that buyer represented. THERE IS A PRECIDENT FOR THIS in the history of conceptual art.

The ET AL art practice in totally informed, every move deliberate-and every press event-CALCULATED. That poor people hospital rant you gave is the way national ended up removing public funding from all art and creative industries that are non-commercial. It is extremely important this work of ET AL's get funding and support. Don't go ripping money off artists to feed poor people-they are already poor enough and ET AL did 15 years as an underfunded, totally poor artist-outside the dealer gallery stucture. And before you get stuck into all artists- just don't. Other countries like Ireland give artists tax breaks etc and their investment has paid off in their art and film industry.

ET Al's work has all the spunk, grit and friek-out factor art needs to be memorable (not to mention it is actulally quite aesthetic in a grey, machine, wire fence kind of way)- you got to remember that venice has hundreds of art exhibitions in hundreds of locations across the city during this biennale and to rise above the din is a feat in and of itself.

what is wrong with NZ being visible?

Great piss-take!