Advice needed on fighting a speeding ticket

**Jack Miller** · 14th June 2011, 19:49

Yes it is possible to get off just about any speeding ticket. I did. I used the info from http://www.aussiespeedingfines.com's e-book. It costs $65 bucks but I found it well worth it, even though it is focused on Australia. Unfortunately there is way too much to it to sumarise effectively here. But if you have to get off, or at least stall until your oldest demerit points drop off, it will probably tell you what you need to know to in your specific case.

Cheers & good luck. Speed limit enforcement is a racket. It has had no effect on the road toll and has made our roads more dangerous. You have every right to fight it.

ps. I have no affiliation to Aussiespeedingfines except as a satisfied customer.

**thepom** · 15th June 2011, 09:44

hey jack,can I buy that book off you?.......

**scumdog** · 15th June 2011, 11:42

Originally Posted by Jack Miller

Yes it is possible to get off just about any speeding ticket. I did. I used the info from http://www.aussiespeedingfines.com's e-book. It costs $65 bucks but I found it well worth it, even though it is focused on Australia. Unfortunately there is way too much to it to sumarise effectively here. But if you have to get off, or at least stall until your oldest demerit points drop off, it will probably tell you what you need to know to in your specific case.

Cheers & good luck. Speed limit enforcement is a racket. It has had no effect on the road toll and has made our roads more dangerous. You have every right to fight it.

ps. I have no affiliation to Aussiespeedingfines except as a satisfied customer.

Bummer when you get a ticket in Te Anau and have to come all the way from say Nelson to defend the ticket in Invercargill though...

**Ender EnZed** · 15th June 2011, 11:55

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Am going through the process at the moment. Will report back.

**Jack Miller** · 15th June 2011, 15:50

Originally Posted by scumdog

Bummer when you get a ticket in Te Anau and have to come all the way from say Nelson to defend the ticket in Invercargill though...

With any luck they'll give up before it gets to court. They did with me. Their interest evaporated as soon as I asked for a copy of the particular RADAR user's manual and maintenance history.

**Jack Miller** · 15th June 2011, 15:51

Originally Posted by thepom

hey jack,can I buy that book off you?.......

Sorry mate, they've cunningly protected their IP and it won't transfer to another computer. You'll have to get it from them.

**davereid** · 15th June 2011, 19:43

Originally Posted by Jack Miller

But if you have to get off, or at least stall until your oldest demerit points drop off, it will probably tell you what you need to know to in your specific case. You have every right to fight it.

It may pay to check a few facts here Aus may be different to NZ.

IMHO....

You cant stall demerit points. If you get 100 in a two year period you lose your licence end of story.

It does not matter when the conviction occurs.

The timer starts at the date of the offence, for the measurement of the demerits. Even if you manage to get a conviction delayed for years, once it occurs you are still measured as having 100 points in a two year window.

Once it is established that you have the 100 points, you dont get suspension on the date of conviction.

You get it when the NZTA serves you with notification that you have lost your licence.

ie

year 2000-2001
You get tickets that add to 100 demerits. But you take some to court.

Year 2005 you get convicted of the ones you take to court. The NZTA now say "you have reached 100 demerits in two years, from 2000 to 2001. You will suspended for 3 months."

Year 2011 NZTA finally serve you with the suspension.

Until served, you drove legally. But once served, thats it, time to walk.

**Jack Miller** · 25th July 2011, 14:20

Originally Posted by davereid

It may pay to check a few facts here Aus may be different to NZ.

IMHO....

You cant stall demerit points. If you get 100 in a two year period you lose your licence end of story.

It does not matter when the conviction occurs.

The timer starts at the date of the offence, for the measurement of the demerits. Even if you manage to get a conviction delayed for years, once it occurs you are still measured as having 100 points in a two year window.

Once it is established that you have the 100 points, you dont get suspension on the date of conviction.

You get it when the NZTA serves you with notification that you have lost your licence.

ie

year 2000-2001
You get tickets that add to 100 demerits. But you take some to court.

Year 2005 you get convicted of the ones you take to court. The NZTA now say "you have reached 100 demerits in two years, from 2000 to 2001. You will suspended for 3 months."

Year 2011 NZTA finally serve you with the suspension.

Until served, you drove legally. But once served, thats it, time to walk.

Cunning b'stards

**jafar** · 25th July 2011, 15:15

Originally Posted by davereid

It may pay to check a few facts here Aus may be different to NZ.

IMHO....

You cant stall demerit points. If you get 100 in a two year period you lose your licence end of story.

It does not matter when the conviction occurs.

The timer starts at the date of the offence, for the measurement of the demerits. Even if you manage to get a conviction delayed for years, once it occurs you are still measured as having 100 points in a two year window.

Once it is established that you have the 100 points, you dont get suspension on the date of conviction.

You get it when the NZTA serves you with notification that you have lost your licence.

ie

year 2000-2001
You get tickets that add to 100 demerits. But you take some to court.

Year 2005 you get convicted of the ones you take to court. The NZTA now say "you have reached 100 demerits in two years, from 2000 to 2001. You will suspended for 3 months."

Year 2011 NZTA finally serve you with the suspension.

Until served, you drove legally. But once served, thats it, time to walk.

Originally Posted by Jack Miller

Cunning b'stards

Wrong, the points are added from the date of conviction , not from the date of the ticket. If it an instant fine they are added from the date you pay the fine!
Innocent until proved guilty

The flip side is that you can get a ticket in say 2000 & fight it through until 2005 & when (if) you lose the points are added in 2005, but if it goes to court the judge often forgets to add the points & you just get a fine & court costs.

**FJRider** · 25th July 2011, 15:23

Originally Posted by jafar

The flip side is that you can get a ticket in say 2000 & fight it through until 2005 & when (if) you lose the points are added in 2005, but if it goes to court the judge often forgets to add the points & you just get a fine & court costs.

The down-side ... if ... as you fight it ... you get two more sets of (lower) demerits ... (just under the two year period ... )the extra court awarded points will still have you walking ... then ... if not sooner ...

**jafar** · 25th July 2011, 15:35

Originally Posted by FJRider

The down-side ... if ... as you fight it ... you get two more sets of (lower) demerits ... (just under the two year period ... )the extra court awarded points will still have you walking ... then ... if not sooner ...

Yes, as I said the points are added @ the time of conviction.

It is possible to lose your licence & get it back, then go to court & have the case your contesting awarded against you & have the points then added to your licence even though if you had not contested it & lost your licence those points would have been wiped.

Hopefully if you know you are going to court for the biggest crime ( getting caught ) then you will have enough sense to have slowed down & not collected any more points.

**Str8 Jacket** · 25th July 2011, 15:38

Originally Posted by FJRider

The down-side ... if ... as you fight it ... you get two more sets of (lower) demerits ... (just under the two year period ... )the extra court awarded points will still have you walking ... then ... if not sooner ...

ANND, not just that if you lose the Judge can decide to increase your fine. You will also have court costs added to whatever the fine the judge imposes on you too..... So unless you really are innocent and can prove it - don't bother!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 25th July 2011, 15:39

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

We shall see. There is only one court in the land that can make any determination without your consent, and its not that one.

"

How's it going for you cum face?

**FJRider** · 25th July 2011, 15:44

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

ANND, not just that if you lose the Judge can decide to increase your fine. You will also have court costs added to whatever the fine the judge imposes on you too..... So unless you really are innocent and can prove it - don't bother!

True ...

Some Judges take Court time-wasters ... VERY seriously ...