Advice needed on fighting a speeding ticket

[FJRider]

Hopefully if you know you are going to court for the biggest crime ( getting caught ) then you will have enough sense to have slowed down & not collected any more points.

You would think ...

After reading some of these threads here on KB ... some wont/Haven't ...

[Muppet]

Gonna make this as short as possible. Last week on way home, passed a car(lanesplitting) and cop pulled me over. He accused me of crossing the yellow lines.I argued that I did not and was lane splitting instead. Arguement did not go well(since I could not keep calm), so Cop decided to fine me for speeding instead. He did not have any reading and apparently dont need one. So, got 35 demerits on that ticket and already have 90 on licence. So will loose licence unless I fight it. So, anyone know of a good lawfirm to help me fight this, or do you think I'll be fighting a loosing battle, since I have a record for speeding?

Well I have no sympathy for you whatsoever-90 demerits eh? What were they for? And we're only getting your side of the story as well. You're a slow learner!

[FJRider]

Well I have no sympathy for you whatsoever-90 demerits eh? What were they for? And we're only getting your side of the story as well. You're a slow learner!

The OP hasn't posted since the 6th of March ... I suspect things didn't go well ...

[thepom]

Spot the coppers...up yours I say and fight it till the bitter end you chumps.....

[Str8 Jacket]

Spot the coppers...up yours I say and fight it till the bitter end you chumps.....

You GO girl!

[fokky]

Well I have no sympathy for you whatsoever-90 demerits eh? What were they for? And we're only getting your side of the story as well. You're a slow learner!

Exactly......bleat bleat poor me.Only one person holding onto the handle bars and twisting the twisty bit

[scumdog]

Spot the coppers...up yours I say and fight it till the bitter end you chumps.....

You forgot to add: "and I'll pay all legal costs!!

[TOTO]

When you get receive the ticket in the mail, cross it corner to corner with a ballpoint pen and write "CANCELLED - NO CONTRACT" across it, reseal the original envelope, obliterate your name and address on the envelope and write "NO CONTRACT - RETURN TO SENDER" on it, and re-post it.

They will send you a computer printed reminder - open it and and cross it and write across the remittance advice "CANCELLED - NO CONTRACT", and do the return to sender thing again.

If they contact you again whatsoever, trespass the person and specifically forbid them or their agent to contact you again whatsoever regardless of topic, revoke all implied consent to approach or communicate with you, and begin harassment proceedings against the officer concerned warning him to call off his agent or else. Place a $200K lien on his family home.

If they dare to call you into a hearing (they won't) then quietly wander in there and once they start to speak, interrupt them and calmly enquire "what is this jurisdiction?" and whatever they reply with say "No consent in this jurisdiction." If they argue, just calmly state "No consent for any person to represent me, no consent to make any judgement about me in this jurisdiction, benefits are waived to all parties, all implied consent is revoked" and then zip lip. Say only the words "no consent" after this point.

That jurisdiction can only proceed with your consent, so revoke it. That'll make them squeal.

I like that !

[Muppet]

Spot the coppers...up yours I say and fight it till the bitter end you chumps.....

Whoa! Steady on there pom, I was just voicing my opinion. Best you go have nice cup of luke warm milky tea (no wonder you lot whinge so much) and then a lie down, well, not until you watch an episode of 'street on 'telly.

[Toaster]

Hopefully if you know you are going to court for the biggest crime ( getting caught ) then you will have enough sense to have slowed down & not collected any more points.

Clearly he was not the smartest then.

It's very simple. People know the rules and still they break em only to then whinge like girls because they have to face the consequences of their own actions.

Pussies.

[thepom]

Sorry but forgot to put the worm on the hook ha ha ...........

[Jack Miller]

Hey Darkman,

is that the HP car with the personalised plate - SLOWDN?

What an offensive plate. Everyone sees a plate. It is not a targeted message, it is a message for everyone. Most people don't speed but this is telling them to slow down anyway. Will the owner not be happy until everyone has slowed to a stop on the side of the road. What a wanker!

[Jack Miller]

Wrong, ...
Innocent until proved guilty

That was my first thought -Demerit points are a punishment, surely they cant apply a punishment until after they've proved guilt - but davereid sounded quite plausible. I'm glad he's wrong.

[Jack Miller]

ANND, not just that if you lose the Judge can decide to increase your fine. You will also have court costs added to whatever the fine the judge imposes on you too..... So unless you really are innocent and can prove it - don't bother!

While the courts can ask for costs and most people pay them I suspect they are on shaky legal ground. Access to justice is a basic civil right and a refusal to pay costs based on the bill of rights would have a good chance of success. Certainly in Australia Article 15 in the Covenant On Civil And Political Rights makes it clear.

I think it is also illegal to increase the fine once the Police have set it.

A Court could add contempt charges, which would have to be paid. But only if you showed contempt to the Court. As far as I'm aware, contempt for the Police is not illegal.

Unfortunately I have never had the opportunity to test these three points because I have always managed to convince the Police to drop the charges before getting to Court. Perhaps I will get the chance one day but it is unlikely.

[Jack Miller]

You would think ...

After reading some of these threads here on KB ... some wont/Haven't ...

It is quite possible to collect demerit points without breaking the law. The Police often issue tickets illegally - they did to me. If you don't have the balls to fight it I guess you will get the demerit points even though you didn't break the law.