My bike's stuck in a yellow stickered building in Christchurch

[AllanB]

So useless bickering aside... now that the cordon is coming down in areas they've accepted they won't find survivors in, does anyone know what the facts are regarding entering yellow stickered buildings to retrieve personal items is?

I know the Street and Sport (which is only across the road) guys were able to get some cars out yesterday (might have been the day before), but they were outside of the building.

My understanding is that the zones that were opened for a small period where to enable people to get cars and businesses to retrieve important items. All while under the supervision of specialised personal. So not a general walk through.

[lakedaemonian]

Good point about a bike shops coverage - it should include clients bikes when they have them.

If mine was damaged while in a shop I'd expect the shops insurance to cover it not mine. Anyone have any experience with this?

That's a VERY good question.

We've got excellent coverage and I'm waiting to find out that question on our policy RE earthquake cover.....whose insurance should cover it?

Completely agree.....If a customer's bike is damaged in my shop by something we did, we cover it always....earthquake? waiting to find out.....whether best under our cover(if covered) or theirs.....I'm sure we'll find a way thru.

We just gained access today.....for 30 minutes.....only after waiting 3 days at the Art Museum HQ.

The CD/CCC folks are doing their best, but there's room for improvement on every side in getting business jumpstarted again.

So we are starting to operate offsite until we achieve some clarity.....quite nebulous and opaque at the moment for our patch.....do we stay on Manchester St. or do we shift to inner suburbs? Not sure yet.

[lakedaemonian]

My understanding is that the zones that were opened for a small period where to enable people to get cars and businesses to retrieve important items. All while under the supervision of specialised personal. So not a general walk through.

Correct...Zones 1 + 2 are open-ish

Zones 3 + 4 will be opening shortly

Red Zone.....TBD...limited escorted access only...even though I was there on the Tuesday Night with USAR, back with USAR again a few days later to gain entry for a few minutes....today it was like we were defusing a bomb to enter......VERY safety conscious.....as am I, but the approach is one of extreme caution.

It's going to be slow going unless they allow a bit more latitude in terms of people allowed to take personal responsibility for their own actions with their own property.

[RDjase]

agreed.

Of course the better question is, why is a brand new BMW motorbike (what with their reputation for Teutonic reliablility, andbeing designed by Ze Chermans and all) doing in for warranty work month after month? Has chasing and beating the Japanese at their own game in every market segment they enter had a detrimental effect on the reliability of the marque? Enquiring minds....

F800ST ? Have heard they have had water pump issues, minor problem, all sorted on warranty.

BMW arn't my sort of bike but I did like the F800 I had a ride on

Hope you get your bike out soon orangeback

By the look of it everyone is busy in the CBD and are doing the best they can. Must be a real cluster fuck to try and orginise the search and recovery, water, food, what Zone is what and all the other stuff that is happening.
I'm sure there not letting you get your bike just to piss you off.

Come to Hawkes Bay and get a loaner of Jeff Gray BWM's shop here

[shrub]

You mean the 100 odd families who at the time were worried whether they'd ever seen their loved ones again? Yeah fuck 'em and their faux problems.

Most people in this town have problems and losses of some form and of differing severity. Saying "there are people worse off than you, so suck it up; your failing business, shattered home, lost motorcycle, wet stamp collection, distressed cat don't matter". I didn't want to lose my bike and was keen to find out if I could get it out because (a) it's my main form of transport, (b) is something I have invested a lot of time and effort personalising it and getting it the way I like it and (c) it's my bike and a bike is more than just a possession (to some people). My car, fridge, washing machine and BBQ I really don't care about; but to me a bike is a different category of thing.

And if getting my bike out would cause any risk to anyone, interfere with rescuing anyone or cause emotional pain to anyone who has lost a loved one, then I would be delighted for iit to stay where it was; but it didn't. The only people working in that area now are demolition workers, so they're probably quite glad that there is one less thing to worry about/move/bulldoze.

As for the OP - I can fully understand not insuring his bike while it's unrideable - if the bike is sitting in a workshop not being ridden on the Queen's highways it (normally) faces few risks, so why insure it against Mary Pajero hitting it or overcooking a corner? he had just bought a new bike, and that's a pretty cool thing to do. My guess is he's hanging out for a ride, and has been for a while. The thought that his dream toy is likely to end up under a pile of rubble must really rankle. He's probably saved for a long time for that bike and more than likely didn't sleep a lot the night before he picked it up.

Personally I really hope he gets it out.

[onearmedbandit]

Most people in this town have problems and losses of some form and of differing severity. Saying "there are people worse off than you, so suck it up; your failing business, shattered home, lost motorcycle, wet stamp collection, distressed cat don't matter". I didn't want to lose my bike and was keen to find out if I could get it out because (a) it's my main form of transport, (b) is something I have invested a lot of time and effort personalising it and getting it the way I like it and (c) it's my bike and a bike is more than just a possession (to some people). My car, fridge, washing machine and BBQ I really don't care about; but to me a bike is a different category of thing.

And if getting my bike out would cause any risk to anyone, interfere with rescuing anyone or cause emotional pain to anyone who has lost a loved one, then I would be delighted for iit to stay where it was; but it didn't. The only people working in that area now are demolition workers, so they're probably quite glad that there is one less thing to worry about/move/bulldoze.

That's cool for you. My bike is my pride and joy, which has been extensively personalised, and is entirely unique and represents thousands of dollars in mods and improvements and hundreds of hours, but I wouldn't have given two hoots about it's condition while I knew they were still trying to rescue people from a collapsed building next door.

[shrub]

That's cool for you. My bike is my pride and joy, which has been extensively personalised, and is entirely unique and represents thousands of dollars in mods and improvements and hundreds of hours, but I wouldn't have given two hoots about it's condition while I knew they were still trying to rescue people from a collapsed building next door.

What if the building had been 2 blocks away? Or 2 kms away? And they stopped rescuing people nearly 2 weeks ago.

[lakedaemonian]

That's cool for you. My bike is my pride and joy, which has been extensively personalised, and is entirely unique and represents thousands of dollars in mods and improvements and hundreds of hours, but I wouldn't have given two hoots about it's condition while I knew they were still trying to rescue people from a collapsed building next door.

On behalf of myself and the guys I worked with and supported during the first two weeks......something like getting a beautiful bike to safety or into it's owner's hands without a scratch amidst such chaos during brief breaks is a REAL morale booster.

On my last shift I brought a 2011 Fatboy into the cordon for use as a "messenger bike". It served a valid purpose for one last shift in looking after the guys on and in the cordon...and acted as a bit of a morale booster.

To be honest...seeing someone get something of value out......whether it be tangible or intangible ....made the days go by a bit faster and better.


People took absolute priority and if that bike was in the way it would have been f'n flattened.....fortunately it wasn't....and I'm sure gave the guys inside a little lift and a small win during an infrequent break.

Saving lives is impossible to beat, but saving something beautiful still counts as one in the "W" column

Just my opinion and 0.02c

[onearmedbandit]

What if the building had been 2 blocks away? Or 2 kms away? And they stopped rescuing people nearly 2 weeks ago.

But it wasn't two blocks away, nor 2km away, nor had they stopped rescuing people. I'm not referring to any other scenario here than the one your bike was in. Otherwise we could debate an infinite number of possibilities.

On behalf of myself and the guys I worked with and supported during the first two weeks......something like getting a beautiful bike to safety or into it's owner's hands without a scratch amidst such chaos during brief breaks is a REAL morale booster.

On my last shift I brought a 2011 Fatboy into the cordon for use as a "messenger bike". It served a valid purpose for one last shift in looking after the guys on and in the cordon...and acted as a bit of a morale booster.

To be honest...seeing someone get something of value out......whether it be tangible or intangible ....made the days go by a bit faster and better.


People took absolute priority and if that bike was in the way it would have been f'n flattened.....fortunately it wasn't....and I'm sure gave the guys inside a little lift and a small win during an infrequent break.

Saving lives is impossible to beat, but saving something beautiful still counts as one in the "W" column

Just my opinion and 0.02c

Where did I say it was a bad thing? All I said was it was less important than saving people.

[AllanB]

On my last shift I brought a 2011 Fatboy into the cordon for use as a "messenger bike".

So that explains some of the aftershocks then!!!!!

Nah just kidding - it would have been rather surreal seeing a new bike cruising around the rubble.

[Harvd]

Dont worry these things can be done. Heres one we removed for the current/longtime owner. You may recognize it?

[orangeback]

And bloody ell mate - $18k bike in Christchurch and no insurance! Were you out of town in September & Boxing Day and late January and any of the thousands of significant aftershocks in between!

said it in first post , has 3rd party , i had a quote for it full and was shopping around as it was double what i was paying for my aprillia, at same value and 1/2 the cc . and was going to finalising it when it returns back from warranty work.

I had the option to go in today but i had no way into the building, the red zone opens up on monday , so tues ill try to obtain it , and hope for no more big after shocks over the weekend , to red sticker the old buildings behind the old lonestar where it is.
Yes it just a bike, and falls on fuck all importance to what's happened, and others have lost,
But on a single income family with kids i wont bounce back from a big financial loss if i loose it, i had sold 3 other bike i had to buy it, and was going to be the bike i was to keep till my kids are of age , hence buying a BMW.

[shrub]

But it wasn't two blocks away, nor 2km away, nor had they stopped rescuing people. I'm not referring to any other scenario here than the one your bike was in. Otherwise we could debate an infinite number of possibilities.

Where did I say it was a bad thing? All I said was it was less important than saving people.

Of course recovering a bike is less important than saving people, but at no point did getting my bike out have the slightest impact on saving people or even recovering the dead - in fact getting another obstacle out of the way of USAR workers and vehicles may even have made things easier.

[shrub]

said it in first post , has 3rd party , i had a quote for it full and was shopping around as it was double what i was paying for my aprillia, at same value and 1/2 the cc . and was going to finalising it when it returns back from warranty work.

I had the option to go in today but i had no way into the building, the red zone opens up on monday , so tues ill try to obtain it , and hope for no more big after shocks over the weekend , to red sticker the old buildings behind the old lonestar where it is.
Yes it just a bike, and falls on fuck all importance to what's happened, and others have lost,
But on a single income family with kids i wont bounce back from a big financial loss if i loose it, i had sold 3 other bike i had to buy it, and was going to be the bike i was to keep till my kids are of age , hence buying a BMW.

Good luck mate, I look forward to hearing you've got your baby back

[Mully Clown]

The day of the September earthquake I was to pick up a new bike I'd paid for on the Friday. Street and Sport kept in touch the entire time and finally called me on the Thursday saying "get here within the hour". Probably the strangest handover they'd ever done (until Feb).

I'm sure you'll get looked after.