Safety Barriers - On Ride Forever

**bugjuice** · 24th June 2005, 10:32

yeah, I'm not overly keen on being pushed around on the bridge..

Always ride/drive in the left lane, unless overtaking. When you've overtaken, move back to the left-most lane. Ride in the middle of the lane too, this gives you a few feet either way for things like taxis pulling across. This will give you time to glide over, while going for the horn, or if you can, and willing, a sharp punch on the window usually scares the crap out of them for a few days and they might remember. Else a good long blast on the horn...

Just so gotta keep your whits about you, all the time.. The time they slip, could be the last! eekk..

**placidfemme** · 24th June 2005, 10:35

lol I never plan to get close enough to a cage to hit the window...

*is a stong believer in karma*

I always forget to use my horn... the only time I ever use it, is to wake the security guard up at work so he can un-lock the gate...

*should make a habit of using my horn*

**Pixie** · 24th June 2005, 11:20

The main threat to bikers from the wire, and also the armco barriers, is not being forced onto the barrier while still on the bike,but sliding into the supports after being knocked off.The supports will then proceed to dismember the rider very effectively.That's why armco at racing circuits goes all the way to the ground.
As I mentioned in another post,a french colleague told me that french bikers stopped paying their registration fees until the authorities stopped installing wire barriers.

**bugjuice** · 24th June 2005, 11:35

Originally Posted by Pixie

The main threat to bikers from the wire, and also the armco barriers, is not being forced onto the barrier while still on the bike,but sliding into the supports after being knocked off.The supports will then proceed to dismember the rider very effectively.That's why armco at racing circuits goes all the way to the ground.
As I mentioned in another post,a french colleague told me that french bikers stopped paying their registration fees until the authorities stopped installing wire barriers.

ahh.. good point, forgot about post-bin results.. yeah, well a concrete barrier would just slide you along..
k, I'm in then

**Lou Girardin** · 24th June 2005, 12:20

I think I'll have a clause in my will instructing my executor to sue the shit out of Transit if I die on a cheesecutter barrier.

**sAsLEX** · 24th June 2005, 12:32

Originally Posted by bugjuice

As dangerous etc as they are to us, I don't think I'd want them changed, and I can't think of a safe alternative for us. If one could be found, great, but how would it stop an 18 wheeler from crossing the path, but keep us soft from harm?

well i can think of hundreds if given the time, only limiting factor is the cheap cunts up top, who take so much tax from us but are unwilling to provide decent roading systems for us

a concrete barrier is one example to seperate traffic and is used effectively on the MW, just costs too much to do SH1 all up the country. Another effective method would be to have two one lane roads seperated by a distance one going south the other north, but again cost.....

The shape of the barrier also effects how lethal they are to two wheeled peeps

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**bugjuice** · 24th June 2005, 13:50

lol.. nice examples..
I see what you're saying tho, the ones that aren't square cut will help to slide you in a less painful way..

What sort of solution is there then, with a simple criteria - stop this dude asap from crossing the line into oncoming traffic:

while making sure this poor dude is going to have a soft bounce when he meets the centre barrier...

not having a go, but could you allow for both? just curious to see what your, or anyone elses ideas are..

I have a couple of ideas, but they're a bit pants..

**XP@** · 24th June 2005, 14:17

Originally Posted by placidfemme

This morning on the Southern Motorway, just after the harbour bridge, a taxi changed lanes right into me, without indicating... when he finally noticed there was already another vehicle in that lane (me) he decided to indicated, with all 4 of his wheels already into my lane.... and as those of you who ride from the North Shore know... just past the Shelley Beach off-ramp there is a bus lane, and it's a slight corner/bend in the motorway, with wet roads, and little time to react and brake I had to swerve into the buslane.

This is why you have a gap in front that you can move in to, and if possible a gap behind too. and you know what is around you. Best case is keep your options open, and know which is the best to take. and be as far away from the vehicles in the other lane as possible.

If you get someone pulling in you your space then you can usually either brake and let them in. not always easy if you are being tailgated. or throttle on (drop down a gear if need be).

**sAsLEX** · 24th June 2005, 15:05

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you reckon a truck will just smash through a solid concrete divider with rebar and crap inside it? I think a renforced concrete barrier would be more effective at keeping a dirty big truck on the right side of the road, but will channel the force along the road rather than slowing it down as such, which is a good thing in a way as it doesn't all of a sudden create a barrier for traffic thats behind it and cause a massive pile up.

**bugjuice** · 24th June 2005, 15:17

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

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you reckon a truck will just smash through a solid concrete divider with rebar and crap inside it? I think a renforced concrete barrier would be more effective at keeping a dirty big truck on the right side of the road, but will channel the force along the road rather than slowing it down as such, which is a good thing in a way as it doesn't all of a sudden create a barrier for traffic thats behind it and cause a massive pile up.

lol..another top drawing
true, and another good point.. may be something similar to the design of the barriers on the back of road work trucks, that yellow thing that folds down? guess something like that could work.. strong plastic too, so it'd be recyclable? but how strong would it be to a truck at 70° angles, for eg?

**Lou Girardin** · 24th June 2005, 15:18

Wide median strips aren't the answer either. A friends sister in law died at Ramarama a few years ago. Her car went across the widest median in the country. Maybe if they're filled with kitty litter they'd be OK.

**bugjuice** · 24th June 2005, 15:22

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Wide median strips aren't the answer either. A friends sister in law died at Ramarama a few years ago. Her car went across the widest median in the country. Maybe if they're filled with kitty litter they'd be OK.

so what about the cats while they're using the kitty litter, and they see a truck coming at them mid-pee. They'd be busy goin

then see it and

then realise what it was

and realise what they're in the middle of

and then it's all too late