Unsafe passing - any leg to stand on?

[steve_t]

maybe I'm missing something (wouldn't be the first time) but jasonu is the one referring to this arrangement of lanes as a passing lane. In my understanding of the situation as portrayed..two lanes heading in the same direction on one side of the road... Lets argue that these lanes are of the wider variety. If CAR A is in the left most lane and CAR B the right lane. If CAR A were to be fully left inside that there left lane, and rider of motorcycle in question were to pass between these two CAGE's, but stay to the left of the white dashed lane divider, that would be considered a legal over take move would it not? IE Stayed completely within a designated lane and passed on the right of the vehicle it intended to pass..... Wouldn't this allow a leg to stand on? I agree if in the move the cycle meandered over the white divider the move would become a pass on the left or inside which is a no no....

I'll try to find the link but IIRC only on the motorway is each lane considered an individual carriageway. If you did what you described on a passing lane, I believe you'd still technically be undertaking Car B

[mrmeal]

I'll try to find the link but IIRC only on the motorway is each lane considered an individual carriageway. If you did what you described on a passing lane, I believe you'd still technically be undertaking Car B

Arr now you may have a good point there... hadn't taken in that point in mind...

[Berries]

Return the notice to the sender after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT". etc etc etc etc.

Surely by having an NZ driver licence you have already entered in to the contract you are now trying to deny?

As has been asked in several other threads where you posted this same spiel, has it ever been succesful ?

[FJRider]

As has been asked in several other threads where you posted this same spiel, has it ever been succesful ?

He hasn't actually tried it ... yet ...

[24xtreme]

It was on a 2 lane road going 1 direction. It was not a passing lane. 50km'h traffic, was pretty congested. Thanks for all the advice KB forum. I think the line issue will be my downfall so will just move on.

[FJRider]

I think the line issue will be my downfall so will just move on.

Just move on a little slower ... with a little more care ...

Two years from your last (points gathering) infringement untill you are "points free" ...

[jasonu]

maybe I'm missing something (wouldn't be the first time) but jasonu is the one referring to this arrangement of lanes as a passing lane. In my understanding of the situation as portrayed..two lanes heading in the same direction on one side of the road... Lets argue that these lanes are of the wider variety. If CAR A is in the left most lane and CAR B the right lane. If CAR A were to be fully left inside that there left lane, and rider of motorcycle in question were to pass between these two CAGE's, but stay to the left of the white dashed lane divider, that would be considered a legal over take move would it not? IE Stayed completely within a designated lane and passed on the right of the vehicle it intended to pass..... Wouldn't this allow a leg to stand on? I agree if in the move the cycle meandered over the white divider the move would become a pass on the left or inside which is a no no....

That might be the case but still a bloody dangerous/stupid place to put yourself IMO.

[The Pastor]

don't do any sort of manoeuvres in front of a cop.

Did the cop see you, or did one of the drivers ring *555?

[pritch]

Return the notice to the sender after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT".

Return the remittance advice after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT".

IF they are stupid enough to call a hearing, go to the hearing and ;

Explain to them you have no contract with any person to obey these statutes, since they are statutes and not law.

Tell them your full name is your copyrighted trademark and they are using it without permission and demand the officers full name so you may begin breach of copyright proceedings against him, and then place a huge lien on his family home.

Tell them that you were interviewed without your specific consent, and you explained to the officer at the time that all implied consent was revoked and that you declined to be interviewed but he proceeded anyway, and therefore what h announces to be his "evidence" (or rather lack of it) is inadmissible as it was acquired illegally.

They require your specific consent to proceed in that jurisdiction, so take great care to not inadvertently consent to it - tell him outright "no consent in this jurisdiction", fold your arms, and go silent. No matter what they say after that, reply with "no consent".

They have no choice but to hand it to a higher court or throw it out. They won't hand it up to a higher court because they know you will revoke consent in the court also and they will be forced to hand it to the High Court, which will throw it out since it is not a common law matter.

Yeah so basically you are telling them to get fucked, so either stick to your guns or give in early, but any show of weakness will result in a severe trampling.

Remind yourself that you read this on the internet and its probably smarter to go pay the fine, or just maybe stand up for yourself for once and be part of the solution.

Good luck.

What the Hell have you been smoking?

[CookMySock]

Surely by having an NZ driver licence you have already entered in to the contract you are now trying to deny?

If I had, such clearly-onerous conditions would at least have to be disclosed, and they were not, so they cannot apply.

As has been asked in several other threads where you posted this same spiel, has it ever been succesful ?

I don't know. It's probably not smart to describe it here. If anyone is REALLY interested they should turn up and I'll tell them about it.

[red mermaid]

This is half of the stupid idea been put about by some marae based confederation based at Katikati.

DB has got parts of it but not the whole thing...and anyway, it won't work.

Return the notice to the sender after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT".

Return the remittance advice after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT".

IF they are stupid enough to call a hearing, go to the hearing and ;

Explain to them you have no contract with any person to obey these statutes, since they are statutes and not law.

Tell them your full name is your copyrighted trademark and they are using it without permission and demand the officers full name so you may begin breach of copyright proceedings against him, and then place a huge lien on his family home.

Tell them that you were interviewed without your specific consent, and you explained to the officer at the time that all implied consent was revoked and that you declined to be interviewed but he proceeded anyway, and therefore what h announces to be his "evidence" (or rather lack of it) is inadmissible as it was acquired illegally.

They require your specific consent to proceed in that jurisdiction, so take great care to not inadvertently consent to it - tell him outright "no consent in this jurisdiction", fold your arms, and go silent. No matter what they say after that, reply with "no consent".

They have no choice but to hand it to a higher court or throw it out. They won't hand it up to a higher court because they know you will revoke consent in the court also and they will be forced to hand it to the High Court, which will throw it out since it is not a common law matter.

Yeah so basically you are telling them to get fucked, so either stick to your guns or give in early, but any show of weakness will result in a severe trampling.

Remind yourself that you read this on the internet and its probably smarter to go pay the fine, or just maybe stand up for yourself for once and be part of the solution.

Good luck.

[CookMySock]

This is half of the stupid idea been put about by some marae based confederation based at Katikati.

It wasn't their idea.

DB has got parts of it but not the whole thing...and anyway, it won't work.

Care to share your knowledge and experience? edit: Yeah lots of it isn't smart to post here.

[BoristheBiter]

Return the notice to the sender after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT".

Return the remittance advice after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT".

IF they are stupid enough to call a hearing, go to the hearing and ;

Explain to them you have no contract with any person to obey these statutes, since they are statutes and not law.
.

God you get more full of shit every day.

It is law to provide name, address and DOB when asked by any police officer who has stopped you under the land transport act.

So your complete useless twaddle, that you are so famous for spouting, falls over at the first legal point you make so go back to what ever you were doing the grown ups are talking.

[CookMySock]

It is law to provide name, address and DOB when asked by any police officer who has stopped you under the land transport act.

No its not. It's statute.

What the high court orders in writing is law.

[FJRider]

If anyone is REALLY interested they should turn up and I'll tell them about it.

I doubt if you'll get many takers on that ...