Unsafe passing - any leg to stand on?

**24xtreme** · 19th March 2011, 11:29

So I was pulled up 6 weeks ago for an unsafe passing maneuver and informed of $150 fine, no points. I deliberately awaited the reminder as they like to change things about. It now says $150 fine + 35 demerits. Also the infringement states that I did unsafely pass another vehicle traveling in the same direction.

I went between two cars who were moving in separate lanes. It wasn't on the motorway and no excessive speed. Do I have anything to challenge? It will tip me to 90 points if i pay.

**Jantar** · 19th March 2011, 11:40

Did you remain within your lane? Ie stay to the right of the car in your lane without crossing into the next lane? If so your move was legal and you have a defence. If you crossed into the next lane then you're stuck with it.

**Ronin** · 19th March 2011, 11:40

Originally Posted by 24xtreme

So I was pulled up 6 weeks ago for an unsafe passing maneuver and informed of $150 fine, no points. I deliberately awaited the reminder as they like to change things about. It now says $150 fine + 35 demerits. Also the infringement states that I did unsafely pass another vehicle traveling in the same direction.

I went between two cars who were moving in separate lanes. It wasn't on the motorway and no excessive speed. Do I have anything to challenge? It will tip me to 90 points if i pay.

You went between 2 cars travelling in the same direction and it wasn't on the motorway? ermmm

Based on that I would say your screwed and should pay unless there is somethingyou are not telling us that would explain how you managed that.

For example, if you were splitting on the motorway then you would be hard pressed to find a cop who would ticket you. However if you ninjas between to cars whil one was on a passing lane then bye bye.

**24xtreme** · 19th March 2011, 11:45

as in the road has two lanes going 1 direction. Thanks for the info anyway

**jasonu** · 19th March 2011, 12:12

Sounds to me like you got the ticket you deserved.
You're lucky you didn't get flattened!
Pay up and move on.

**marty** · 19th March 2011, 12:18

so 2 cars on a passing lane and you split through them? pay up and move on.

If you don't pay, your case may be heard in your absence and the demerits added anyway.

**Jantar** · 19th March 2011, 12:33

Originally Posted by marty

so 2 cars on a passing lane and you split through them? pay up and move on.....

I didn't read it as on a passing lane, but rather a multi lane road, not a motorway.

**cheshirecat** · 19th March 2011, 12:45

Was it trickling through slow moving traffic? You can give a hypothetical reply without dropping yourself in it.

**jasonu** · 19th March 2011, 17:52

Originally Posted by cheshirecat

Was it trickling through slow moving traffic? You can give a hypothetical reply without dropping yourself in it.

Yeah I wuz behind some cages an a passing lane came up an the back cage pulled into th passin lane in front of me so I went between them real fast so I didnt get hit an the popo gave me a fuckin ticket wouldnt ya know, what a wanker!

**CookMySock** · 19th March 2011, 18:56

Return the notice to the sender after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT".

Return the remittance advice after crossing it "CANCELLED. NO CONTRACT".

IF they are stupid enough to call a hearing, go to the hearing and ;

Explain to them you have no contract with any person to obey these statutes, since they are statutes and not law.

Tell them your full name is your copyrighted trademark and they are using it without permission and demand the officers full name so you may begin breach of copyright proceedings against him, and then place a huge lien on his family home.

Tell them that you were interviewed without your specific consent, and you explained to the officer at the time that all implied consent was revoked and that you declined to be interviewed but he proceeded anyway, and therefore what h announces to be his "evidence" (or rather lack of it) is inadmissible as it was acquired illegally.

They require your specific consent to proceed in that jurisdiction, so take great care to not inadvertently consent to it - tell him outright "no consent in this jurisdiction", fold your arms, and go silent. No matter what they say after that, reply with "no consent".

They have no choice but to hand it to a higher court or throw it out. They won't hand it up to a higher court because they know you will revoke consent in the court also and they will be forced to hand it to the High Court, which will throw it out since it is not a common law matter.

Yeah so basically you are telling them to get fucked, so either stick to your guns or give in early, but any show of weakness will result in a severe trampling.

Remind yourself that you read this on the internet and its probably smarter to go pay the fine, or just maybe stand up for yourself for once and be part of the solution.

Good luck.

**DrunkenMistake** · 19th March 2011, 18:57

Sounds like you should stop getting caught and just pay up,
if it puts you up to 90 then maybe your not learning some kind of lesson?

**Berries** · 19th March 2011, 19:19

Originally Posted by jasonu

Yeah I wuz behind some cages an a passing lane came up an the back cage pulled into th passin lane in front of me so I went between them real fast so I didnt get hit an the popo gave me a fuckin ticket wouldnt ya know, what a wanker!

Ha ha. Which one of the cars was the cop ?

Look at it from the other side. You are second in line approaching a passing lane. Keep hard right against the centreline to get a better view and then when the lane starts some arse in a car squeezes between you and car at the front of the queue. Would you be fuming on KB ? Probably.

**steve_t** · 19th March 2011, 19:23

Any leg to stand on?

**mrmeal** · 19th March 2011, 19:40

maybe I'm missing something (wouldn't be the first time) but jasonu is the one referring to this arrangement of lanes as a passing lane. In my understanding of the situation as portrayed..two lanes heading in the same direction on one side of the road... Lets argue that these lanes are of the wider variety. If CAR A is in the left most lane and CAR B the right lane. If CAR A were to be fully left inside that there left lane, and rider of motorcycle in question were to pass between these two CAGE's, but stay to the left of the white dashed lane divider, that would be considered a legal over take move would it not? IE Stayed completely within a designated lane and passed on the right of the vehicle it intended to pass..... Wouldn't this allow a leg to stand on? I agree if in the move the cycle meandered over the white divider the move would become a pass on the left or inside which is a no no....