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    Quote Originally Posted by over5tayer View Post
    if it became habit for every rider to attach a camera before they saddled up the media would be forced to report the facts. We could all then benefit from the incident by having Katman critically analyse the shit out of the video - pointing out everything that the rider did wrong and what they should have done right.
    Digital media headlines are issued quickly and without regard for the facts. Retractions usually make a couple lines in the middle pages long after the story hype is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    Digital media headlines are issued quickly and without regard for the facts. Retractions usually make a couple lines in the middle pages long after the story hype is gone.

    the initial media stories released seem to be driven by the 'hunch' of what the first officer on the scene believed to have happened. If the cops viewed the footage straight away (they all have laptops in their squad cars) then they could at least make a half accurate report on what actually happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by over5tayer View Post
    the initial media stories released seem to be driven by the 'hunch' of what the first officer on the scene believed to have happened. If the cops viewed the footage straight away (they all have laptops in their squad cars) then they could at least make a half accurate report on what actually happened.
    I don't think it would make any difference.
    We all know "the camera doesn't lie"...but we also know that a camera cannot capture everything, either. Also, a camera can give a somewhat distorted impression of what happened.
    Besides, who in their right mind is going to include their speedo in the frame?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by over5tayer View Post
    if it became habit for every rider to attach a camera before they saddled up the media would be forced to report the facts.
    Now there's a scary thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot slow View Post
    Assuming the reporting on erratically riding can be proved.
    Doesn't have to be proven. Just the insinuation is enough, whether it's true or not. It is irresponsible of anybody in an official capacity to speculate publicly before the investigation is complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post

    As my 3 year old son tells me when I leave... "Daddy be sensible, be smart, be safe". Yes he is only 3.
    Yet when he's 13 he'll spray white spirits on his pubes and set fire to them because someone dares him to. Unfortunately they don;t stay the same through out their development.
    If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?



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    Quote Originally Posted by over5tayer View Post
    if it became habit for every rider to attach a camera before they saddled up the media would be forced to report the facts.done right.
    Fucking shut up. Jeebus save us!
    If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?



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    it was just an idea... bad rep was kinda harsh

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Yet when he's 13 he'll spray white spirits on his pubes and set fire to them because someone dares him to. Unfortunately they don;t stay the same through out their development.
    Not to mention sticking a "skyrocket" up his arse and lighting it .... man there are some fuckwits out there!

    Of course in my day we ..... err what did we do again .... thinking ... thinking .... oh yeah, we were just as silly too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    oh yeah, we were just as silly too!
    Yeah, there was this one time at band camp when someone brought out the nugget. I think it was supposed to be funny.
    If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?



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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Not to mention sticking a "skyrocket" up his arse and lighting it .... man there are some fuckwits out there!
    Can't get skyrockets now. Have too make bombs off the internets instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    As my 3 year old son tells me when I leave... "Daddy be sensible, be smart, be safe". Yes he is only 3.
    This sort of thing really scares me. A 3 year old should be experimenting with life, not worrying about life's risks. Our society has become so risk averse that it's starting to seriously get in the way of living. So a few people die, so what? We all die at some point. If I happened to know one of them then it would hurt but, quite frankly, we care far too much today about people we've never had anything to do with. Before the advent of mass media the general mortality rate was a lot higher than it is today. Did the average member of the public really care? No, they didn't, because they didn't get to hear about it. They just got on with their lives in blissful ignorance.

    Now I'm not saying that there weren't things that needed to change because the risk was unacceptable. What I am saying is that most, if not all, of these have already changed and we have now moved on to the lesser risks that just aren't a problem in daily life.

    Do I wish the road toll was lower? Of course. However, it has become clear to me that the cost of reducing it any further (if this is even possible) is just plain too high. Just look at all the monitoring technologies that are being considered for all motor vehicles. In the name of saving ONE life the true life of that person, and the rest of us, is being systematically taken away.

    Life involves risk. This will never change. Because of this we have been hard-wired by evolution to cope with it to the point that we actually require a certain level of risk or we go mad (just look at the popularity of extreme sports).
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Do I wish the road toll was lower? Of course. However, it has become clear to me that the cost of reducing it any further (if this is even possible) is just plain too high.
    Sometimes you sound weird and other times you talk a load of shit.

    We could reduce the toll without one single cent being spent.

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    Kids at 3yrs old are only really repeating what they've heard from others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Sometimes you sound weird and other times you talk a load of shit.

    We could reduce the toll without one single cent being spent.
    Will that happen? Most likely not. All the governments that have been and gone, have had this innate sense that all problems can get fixed by throwing money at it.

    As soon as someone makes a suggestion, they reach for their checkbook.

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