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    I'm a fucking idiot!

    I just managed to overtighten one of the two oil drain plugs on my ninja. The one leading straight into the case,

    Now... ideas for what to do, it doesn't need 2 draining plugs, so... should I just put a new bolt/washer into the plug I've stripped and use sealant, and leave it for eternity never to be used again. Rather than the horrid replacing the engine case or boring a bigger hole just so a spare draining plug can be used.

    I want to get back riding asap, and I can't believe I did something so stupid. Should have bought that torque wrench when I thought about it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post

    Now... ideas for what to do, it doesn't need 2 draining plugs, so... should I just put a new bolt/washer into the plug I've stripped and use sealant, and leave it for eternity never to be used again.
    The thread you've stripped won't be on the bolt - it will be the casing. Fitting a new bolt will achieve nothing.

    If your motor has a removable sump, take it off and get it helicoiled.

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    U could helicoil if you want to keep using it

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...pped-sump-plug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    The thread you've stripped won't be on the bolt - it will be the casing. Fitting a new bolt will achieve nothing.

    If your motor has a removable sump, take it off and get it helicoiled.
    The sump bolt is fine, it's the vertical draining bolt (spare from the old model ninja) right next to the oil filter that I've stripped the inside straight into the engine case. I was thinking of getting a new bolt/washer and putting it in and using a sealant to permanently close it?

    Or what about getting a new bolt and putting 2/3 washers on it, so that the beginning thread (which I think is still fine) can hold the bolt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    The sump bolt is fine, it's the vertical draining bolt (spare from the old model ninja) right next to the oil filter that I've stripped the inside straight into the engine case. I was thinking of getting a new bolt/washer and putting it in and using a sealant to permanently close it?

    Or what about getting a new bolt and putting 2/3 washers on it, so that the beginning thread (which I think is still fine) can hold the bolt?
    if you fuck the bolt thread, youll fuck the female half at least partly, and vice versa. Helicoil it. is really not that expensive or difficult. bung it up with goop, and it may cause bigger problems down the road.

    If you fuck something fix it.

    If you fix something, fix it properly the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    If you fix something, fix it properly the first time.
    Buuuut... money! How much is the helicoiling? If you know...

    Do I just drag my bike into cycletreads?

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    Get it fixed, learn from the experience, buy a torque wrench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Buuuut... money! How much is the helicoiling? If you know...

    Do I just drag my bike into cycletreads?
    well, Id just do it myself. . .
    ring your local shop and ask them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post

    Or what about getting a new bolt and putting 2/3 washers on it, so that the beginning thread (which I think is still fine) can hold the bolt?
    Sounds a little risky, if it fails...

    Have you tried re tapping it? depending on the length of the bolt,, can you tap it the next size up,, but only tapping half of the depth?.. cut a bolt down to suit

    and loctite on the bolt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Buuuut... money!
    And if your silicone isn't up to the task and the plug comes out whilst riding you run the risk of seizing your engine and/or dumping oil on the road immediately in front of your rear wheel that will somehow be cheaper?

    Don't be a rough cunt, fix the fucking thing properly!
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    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    And if your silicone isn't up to the task and the plug comes out whilst riding you run the risk of seizing your engine and/or dumping oil on the road immediately in front of your rear wheel that will somehow be cheaper?

    Don't be a rough cunt, fix the fucking thing properly!
    Haha I will I'm just moaning in self pity. It shall be done!

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    I'm all for jacking around with shit in I-think-I-can mode - you gotta learn some way, but after a hiccup its really important to know when to stop, lest ye fuck it irretrievably.

    If you are out of your depth then pay up and get it fixed professionally. It's not going to cost megabucks to get someone to helicoil it.
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    Its only $430 bucks to get it helicoiled.....

    Well it did on a mates engine after trying epoxy (fell out when hot)
    Then drilled it out and try to tap another bolt (fell out, didn't have fractional drill bit so no real thread)
    Borrowed a bigger but correct drill and tried again this time there was no thickness left in the bolt area so it stripped again (torque wrench is looking real cheap now)

    New case from an old bike he "scored" of trademe..but the thing had a stripped sump bolt (laughed my coffee through my nose when he mentioned it).

    Finally got the case to a guy who had a coil ready to go.
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    If it's the bolt I think it is. It's on a triangular shaped piece on the sump which holds the guaze filter?? If that's the case remove the 3 bolts 6mm bolts holding it on and hey presto!! Either helicoil or get a new one. While our there clean out the blue and pink paint that will be in your guaze filter!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoot_6R View Post
    If it's the bolt I think it is. It's on a triangular shaped piece on the sump which holds the guaze filter?? If that's the case remove the 3 bolts 6mm bolts holding it on and hey presto!! Either helicoil or get a new one. While our there clean out the blue and pink paint that will be in your guaze filter!!
    Nope, the vertical one leading directly into the case right next to the oil filter not the sump one. If it was just the sump one it wouldn't be so bad as I could take it out as you say.

    Awaiting to hear quotes from a couple companies now for the work, damn the weekend looked so promising.

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